Posted by: mylifeofcrime | February 15, 2010

Donald Frier murder 6/24/1998 Dover, FL *Beaten and drowned to death while being a good samaritan; 2 men, Joshua Bailey and Nathaniel Gates convicted and sentenced to life in prison*

Nathaniel Gates motion

(I have not been able to find much available on this case thus far, but will keep trying)

Movies/Documentaries
Prison Wives: Jane Bailey (This episode is NOT about the murder but about the “love story” between Joshua Bailey [one of the convicted killers] and his wife Jane. From the commercials, it is glamorizing these people in prison and their relationships, but basically ignoring that some of the inmates are in for murder. They will not (in my opinion) be showing any sympathy or compassion towards the victims or their families. In fact, will they even talk to them? Why are they trying to get sympathy for murderers?)

INMATE INFORMATION


DC Number: 165945
Name: BAILEY, JOSHUA A
Race: WHITE
Sex: MALE
Hair Color: BROWN
Eye Color: BROWN
Height: 6’10”
Weight: 187 lbs.
Birth Date: 05/15/1979
Initial Receipt Date: 09/01/1999
Current Facility: POLK C.I.
Current Custody: CLOSE
Current Release Date: SENTENCED TO LIFE
Aliases:
JOSHUA BAILEY JOSHUA A BAILEY
JOSHUA AMOS BAILEY

Current Prison Sentence History:
Offense Date Offense Sentence Date County Case No. Prison Sentence Length
06/24/1998 1ST DG MUR/PREMED. OR ATT. 06/10/1999 HILLSBOROUGH 9811072 SENTENCED TO LIFE

Incarceration History:
Date In-Custody Date Out-of-Custody
09/01/1999 Currently Incarcerated

INMATE INFORMATION

DC Number: T21124
Name: GATES, NATHANIAL D
Race: WHITE
Sex: MALE
Hair Color: BLACK
Eye Color: BROWN
Height: 5’10”
Weight: 224 lbs.
Birth Date: 06/19/1980
Initial Receipt Date: 05/16/2000
Current Facility: DESOTO WORK CAMP
Current Custody: MINIMUM
Current Release Date: 11/11/2015

Aliases:
NATHANIAL D GATES NATHANIAL DUSTIN GATES
NATHANIEL GATES

Current Prison Sentence History:
Offense Date Offense Sentence Date County Case No. Prison Sentence Length
06/24/1998 2ND DEG.MURD,DANGEROUS ACT 04/28/2000 HILLSBOROUGH 9811072 20Y 0M 0D

Incarceration History:
Date In-Custody Date Out-of-Custody
05/16/2000 04/24/2002
03/10/2003 Currently Incarcerated


Responses

  1. Iam watching the story on josh bailey having kids with his wife while incarcerated.Its ridicilous,josh him self said he wouldnt be able to be there to raise his kids or support them.Josh made a mistake and he will pay for it as he should,i dont believe he has the right to have a child with no chance of getting out of jail.His victims family will never have grandchildren from there dead son why does josh get that right.I also believe the trial transcripts that he could of played a part in the drowning,josh himself said he didnt remember much of the beating but also said know matter how drunk he was he would never taken part in the drowing,how can that be true if he dont remember the beating all the way through.I hope josh has changed while in prison he seems nice enough,funny most prisoners with a life sentence change there lives,theres nothing else to do.

  2. I just read this and wanted to thank you for the mention of how wrong that show is. I watched Prison Wives last night and was shocked by the way they ignored the fact that this man was a brutal murderer. It made me sick to my stomach.
    Donnie Frier was my uncle and he was a great man, he just wanted to help out a boy and was killed for it. Joshua Bailey does not deserve children and does not deserve to be happy, and definetly does nto deserve to be painted as a good man who has found religion and overcome a hard past. It was disgusting to me the ignorance of that show and everyone on it, except for Mike Hurley the investigator they interviewed, who stood up for Donnie and try to remind everyone what a brutal thing this man did. Anyway thank you for pointing it out.

    • I won’t watch the show and I usually watch any and all crime related shows that I can. But this one I can’t. I read the comments on the Joy Behr blog and most were also disgusted by it. I am very disappointed in ID.

  3. God bless you and your family Jessica. I watched the show last night and all i kept thinking was “what about Donald Frier”? Who was standing up for him? Where was the sympathy for him? He is a hero in my book for defending that boy those 2 losers were harrasing. I know it is no solace for you and your family but you should all be so proud to have known a man like him.

  4. I believe that many of us all felt the same way when watching this show. He is in jail for a life sentence for murder! Why should he have any rights to bring a life into this world? As for his wife I just couldnt believe when I was watching the show she was saying how she has rights to have a child…but your husband is in prison serving a LIFE sentence shouldnt not have any rights at all. And she knew what she was getting herself into when she married him. Even she herself said that it is hard to make ends meet being that she is basically single and paying for all of the court fees and helping him out. So if she is struggling now what does she think is going to happen when she has a child and is a single mom!? I don’t care if he is a changed man or not. That does not change the fact that he comitted a horrific crime and Donnie will never get his life back and his family and friends lives will never be the same. There will always be a piece missing. Sorry…this is all rambling but this show really makes me mad! My boyfriend couldnt believe that I was watching this show. He works at a prision and would not watch it with me. Can’t say that I blame him.

    • I won’t watch it either. Neither will anyone in my family. It goes completely against what we stand for. I guess ID is not very concerned about justice or victims. Just ratings, drama and gossip. I guess it is appropriate that one of these is from the Springer show murder. I will be posting on the rest of them this week too.

  5. I am Joshua Bailey’s wife and I just wanted to remind everyone that this is television and they left a lot of the footage that they taped out. We do have compassion and sympathy for the victim and his family and they did ask us about that but chose to leave most of that footage out. We also have new evidence that should show that Josh did not take part in the drowning that occurred but he has taken responsibility for his part in the beating. The show did not say Josh was innocent and he is doing time. The renactment was not fact but based on what they believe might have happened. I know no matter what I say people will believe what they want but I just wanted to tell his family that I do feel for them and the loss they have suffered. If Josh or I could change what happened we would but we can’t. Sometimes people have to open their hearts because everyone deserves to be happy…holding onto bitter feelings and thinking bad thoughts about others only brings bad karma on yourself. I wanted Jessica to know that I have the utmost respect for Donnie and the show was not meant to disrespect him or the family in any way it was only meant to show that people do change and that the families of inmates are judged rather harshly even though we ourselves have committed no crime. As I have been judged in everyone’s comments on here. I hope your family will one day find peace and forgiveness in your hearts towards Josh and Nathaniel but if not I understand because the loss of a loved one in such a manner is hard. Please know that your family is always in Josh’s thoughts and prayers as they are in mine as well.

    • Jane,

      You can try to justify it all you want, but there is not “right to happiness” in this life. And the fact that you and Josh believe that you have the right to have a child even though he is in prison and convicted of murder is just plain offensive. He is in prison. He loses those kinds of rights. I guess you think he should be let out for the birth too, for dating, for family dinners huh?
      Remember he is convicted of taking a human being’s life. Donnie is the most important person in all of this and it is his life that should be remembered. Not Josh’s and not even yours. Have you talked to his family about your desire to do this, even though they don’t get the joy of Donnie becoming a parent. You and Josh DO NOT have the right to do this while he is in prison. And didn’t you marry him while he has been in prison? You should have known then that the two of you could not have children together.
      And you can talk all about new evidence and such but that does not mean that it is real or that Josh is FACTUALLY innocent. Was he there? Did he help Donnie? Did he call the police to tell them something was happening? Did he try to help Donnie? If the answer is no to even one of those, then he is guilty of felony murder, whether he helped with the drowning or not. Face facts. Remember, many people have gone to prison for life for this kind of behavior. And Josh should too.

    • I hope yall are good i saw the show and feel for you and your husband. Hope he gets out soon for the both of you. My dad was on a prison show on cnbc and there is alot left out, theres two sides of everything and yall to have the right to speak. God bless. … Jamie G.

    • Jane,

      I think that everyone deserves a second chance. His actions are not justifyed but God teaches everyone to forgive. From watching the show i see that you have been through a lot, and i believe that you were put in his life for a reason. Only time will tell what the outcome will be but i just wanted to let you know that you are both in my prayers. I wish the best for you guys.

      Hilda

    • Jane,

      The poor innocent man Mr Frier that was murdered by your evil husband did not even get a first chance of life and his family lost someone they love dearly.
      After watching this programme (I am in England) how can you want to have a family? you are basically single and skint, not a good way for anyone to start a family, let alone the poor child having a MURDERER as a dad. Get your head out of the sand and think of the child and not yourself.

  6. Dear my life of crime,
    I really wasn’t trying to justify anything just merely pointing out that they left some stuff out of the TV program. My choice to have a child has no bearing on the case which is why I did not bring it up in my original post. You can twist my words or even say bad things about me but I have committed no crime yet you judge me as if I have. I do not know Donnie’s family so no I have never spoken with them about anything. People will believe what they want and have their own opinion about me and my husband but I’m happy no matter what happens or whether I have kids or not. I only want happiness for others including you. So you can be unkind and you can twist my words but my feelings are sincere towards Donnie’s family. Instead of preaching hate about all men in prison maybe you should be trying to figure out why they go there in the first place and start making a difference in your community to help others before they end up where my husband is. I will pray for many good blessings to be bestowed on you and that you too shall find peace in your life.

    • Jane,

      My choice is to be a victim’s advocate, not to help those who choose to kill. And how do you know what I do within my community? But again, my choice is to show the victim’s side and make sure that the victim is remembered, above all others. Maybe you don’t believe in victim’s advocacy, but others do and there is nothing wrong with it. Personally, I believe that the victim’s and their loved ones should have just as many rights (if not more) than those accused of killing them. And don’t get me wrong, I completely agree with people getting a fair trial. I do not like to see innocent people convicted of something they did not do. But the victim should be the one that people remember, not the accused or convicted. But it seems like we remember the killers names, but not the victims. That is not the way it should be.

      • Jane,

        Also, just for the record, I have had a boyfriend (before I was married) who was in prison, so I do know and understand the dilemnas and issues of being a prison wife/girlfriend. But he was not in for murder. My problem with all of this is the glorifying of the murderers and their “love stories” over the murder victim.

  7. Dear my life of crime,
    I applaud and respect your involvement to be a victims advocate. I’m all for that. I believe the show was fair in its portrayal and showed both sides of the story which they did not have to do if they just wanted to “glorify” a murderer. Not everyone will agree with this show and we get many comments on our website both positive and negative. After speaking with you in this blog I have realized we are missing some vital links on our website for victim advocacy and will talk to the other wives about adding links to our website in regards to that. I guess we will continue to have differing opinions on the subject of incarceration and such but it has been a pleasure corresponding with you. I like to think that even when people are negative about my situation I can still learn something from them and so I have. Thanks for the comments both good and bad on your blog as we like to hear everyone’s opinions. Stop by our website and feel free to leave one if you would like at http://www.prisonwivesid.com. Many blessings to you!

    • Good grief.
      Jane, get a life. He has no sole in his eyes. He only wants you to help him get out of jail, advocate for him, and give him money. He probably has all of the sexual activity he needs. LOL

  8. @Jane, are you insane???? Why don’t you go on with your life. In my opinion, he is only using you. Believe me if he got out I doubt he will stay with you. I’m not trying to be ugly just stating the facts. You give him money weekly and apparently paying his attorney fees since you went bankrupt. Wake up. When are you gonna figure it out? 30 yrs from now, when he is still in there?? Stay broke trying to have children. Your in fantasy land. Bounce back to reality. As for Josh he was there. But was dealt a life sentence. You need to get a life Jane.

  9. Wow lalady25 you may not be trying to sound ugly but you are and you are not stating facts. You don’t know me or my husband so how can you judge whether our love is real…you can’t. I have a life…one that I love and I wouldn’t change it for anything. We all suffer in life and you either use it to make you stronger or you sit around trying to be ugly to other people. Kind of like you are being ugly to me. You are entitled to your opinion and so far that is all you have shared….there were no facts in your post.

    • The facts are JOSH killed another human being…Burned his bike… If he didn’t drown Donnie he still beat the crap out of him. And facts are , he left him for dead if he didn’t put his head under water. Fact is he was trying to beat up another innocent kid. Fact is he lay in wait for Donnie to get off work..Fact is he’s not remorseful.. Fact is he found a woman that is wasting her life on a low life. Fact is you may have rights but he doesn’t. Fact is if I ever come accross a petition to keep him IN jail, I would sign that and I’m sure anyone that has a brain cell would also.

  10. Jane,
    After reading my earlier post. I guess it did sound ugly. Sorry about that. You are right I don’t know all the facts. I only know what the program showed. My biggest concern with you guys is that you want to have children. My first marriage I had 2 kids. 7 affairs later I decided apparently he didn’t love me so we divorced. My children were 8 mos and 2 yrs. I had wonderful parents and in-laws just has you do or at least the program appeared that you guys did. And Jane it was still so hard to raise them. I got no child support for the whole 5 years that I was a single parent. Thank goodness for family when it came to Christmas time. Anyway met my husband and we married. I thank god everyday for bringing this man in my life. As my kids got older ( teenage years) I was so thankful to have him here because you have to stay on your toes with them. If you don’t they will drift. Alot to think about when planning having children without your spouse around.
    I just feel that you want a life with children. What if you spend your lifetime trying to get to the point to have a child but it never happens, would it be worth it? What if you spend your lifetime trying to get Josh out, and he never gets out, would it be worth it?
    You could have anything you wanted with another man who is not in prison. Just my opinion again.

  11. Dear lalady25,

    You are right. I could spend my whole life waiting for Josh to get out and never have children. It is something that I have thought about a lot. I could have the life I wanted with another man who is not in prison but I just don’t think it would be fair to that man because my heart really belongs to Josh. (I know that sounds corny) I would be living a lie with someone else and never truly giving them all of my heart. I was married once before and I never had children with my first husband so maybe I was never meant to have kids. I don’t know. What I do know is that if it is meant to be it will be. You are also right about the struggles one faces when raising kids alone…I have watched many of my friends who are now single parents try to get by and it hurts my heart that they have to struggle. In my heart I believe that all people are worth it even those who make mistakes and if I waited for my husband and he never got out then it would be worth it because I would have truly loved someone and he would have truly loved me back. Some people never even have that so I feel blessed with what I have in life. The truth is I am happy with my life even if I never have kids because I base my happiness on me and not on other people. Only I can make me happy and I have to be content with what I have. Although this did not come across in my episode well, I actually have other interests besides having children. I take kung fu, have gone back to school, used to volunteer at an animal rescue and I actually like to travel too. I live my life and do the things that make me happy even without having a husband at my side. I didn’t stop living my life just because I’m married to an inmate. I hope one day I get to have kids and I would like to do it with my husband at home but if that never happens then I will keep living my life being content with the things that I do have, a husband that loves me with all his heart, a great family that supports me and lots of nieces and nephews to spoil. Thank you for sharing your opinion as I do try to listen to everything people want to say with an open mind. Sometimes I too give an emotional reply back to others when I am questioned so I apologize if I came across harsh at all. You seem like a nice person with a big heart who is only looking out for the best interests of the chidlren and I respect that. I wish many blessings on you and your family.

  12. Thanks Jane. You seem like a very sweet person. Josh is lucky to have you in his life….

  13. Jane

    I watched the programme only last night. You genuinely seem a lovely girl, but definitely deluded. Every prison wife who has met and married their husbands in prison are only getting to see what their husbands want them to see, and what the surreal situation allows. You no doubt like every other in your situation will convince yourself that this love is the real thing. It isn’t. A man in prison for so long wants any sort of love and contact from a woman on the outside. If conjical visits are thrown in, tht’s a hell of a bonus. You visit him, you write to him, you send him money, you fight his case and pay the costs. C’mon now Jane, what man wouldn’t pretend to be in love with you. A man in prison is also a prisoner in the marriage. The woman on the outside is in control, and he has to present himself in a way that makes you appear to think he’s happy with that. If he was outside, then you would see a whole different guy, and the marriage wouldn’t last. Women like you pick men like him for a reason. Your reasons may vary, but they will include, being in control, hearing what you want to hear, no physical or verbal abuse, even no sex, contact when you want it etc. Women like you more often than not have came out of an abusive relationship or have self esteem issues.
    I’m not being horrible to you Jane. Just pointing out the blindingly obvious. Josh Bailey is in prison for a terrible murder. The extent of his participation is irrelevant. Two guys killed an upright citizen doing his duty. People like them are low-life and bullies and deserve to be in prison forever. By the time they weep and wail and say they’ved changed it’s too late. The weeping and wailing is only because they got caught, and prison forces them to change. So get real Jane and get on with your life.

    Rob

  14. Rob,

    I can respect that everyone is entitled to their opinion. But even though you said you were not trying to be horrible the tone of your comment suggests otherwise. You are right about one thing though, I am genuinely a lovely person. I always have been and I always will be. I also might be slightly delusional but it is definitely in a good way. Because in my delusional state I only see the good in all people and I believe forgiveness is always possible. You don’t know me or my husband and are only spouting a stereotypical view of prison spouses. Luckily I don’t buy into stereotypes. So please accept my thanks for your comments but sell your hate to someone else, I have had my share. Many blessings to you and yours!

    • Jane,

      Just a note from me, the blog owner. Please remember that everyone that does not agree with you or your husband does not do so due to hate. I am so tired of hearing that kind of stuff. I personally do not hate anyone at all. Not even the person who killed my mother or my sister-in-law. I hate no one. My personal opinions are not based on hate. And it is offensive when people who don’t agree with me or that I do not agree with blame it on hate. So stop using that excuse.

  15. No problem Bonnie. I can respect that request. It’s really just an expression anyway not meant to offend anyone. I could replace the word hate with a number of other words and the sentiment is still the same. I have heard it all from people who know nothing about me or my husband other than what they saw on tv or read in a newspaper article and I just won’t buy into people who are negative. That is all I meant with my comment above. You can’t paint all inmates with the same brush and you can’t paint their families with the same brush either. Some inmates change their lives for the better while incarcerated and some continue down the path that got them there in the first place. Much like victims and their families can’t be painted with the same brush as well because you are all different. As always many blessings to you!

  16. Jane,

    I think people might be saying negative things because we see what a great person you are. And how patient you are, great parent material btw. I think people think that you deserve better. But I believe in my heart that you will stay with Josh no matter what kind of feedback you get. You made a commitment to him and because you are the awesome person that you are, you will stick to it. I think maybe in the beginning your mind could have been changed. But now its too late. Because you made a commitment not only to Josh but to God as well. I feel you will try every length for this marriage to work….. And I am glad that there are people like you left in this world.

  17. Thanks lalady25. Life is all about choices and I made mine with my eyes open. I don’t regret my marriage and I truly love my husband for better or worse.

    I just want to point out to others that loving someone in prison doesn’t mean you condone their crime. Just ask most family members of an inmate, we love the person not the crime. We have compassion for the victims family but I guess it is hard for the two families to find common ground because there is so much hurt on both sides.

  18. I don’t really care whether people thinj what I have to sya is ugly or not. Jane you chose this life so you will just have to realize people will ever think your “husband” is anything but a soul sucking monster and you are no more than a plaything to a soul sucking monster. If and when he gets out then I would love to bet money on your “relationship” working. If you ever decide to stop going broke then the relationship may end a lot sooner. However, you want to have children. I don’t have a problem with you having a child with your prisoner if the government could write up a contract that you would be inelgible for state assistance of any kind up to and including welfare. Ya see I already have to support your “husband” with my taxes so I certainlyt would not want to have to take care of his offspring. Note real sure about nature vs. nurture but since he is a cold hardhearted murderer and you spend all your money trying to get him out, not sure you will be able to support a child and sorry but I would rather not take that on. The minute Mr. Frier took his last breath, I believe your “husband” and his buddy ceased to be human beings because human beings do not do that, he became a rabid animal and deserves exactly what rabid animals gets. Not to procreate, not to get a chance to do it again, he deserves a 50 cent bullet. You however, need some insight as to why you would go to the physically unavailable to find love. There are so many people who are actual human beings that deserve love and you choose an unavailable criminal. Looking at the pictures of the spouses, it seems they may be people of low self esteem and maybe they have always felt unworthy, don’t know and don’t care. Instead of blowing your money on an unworthy animal try using it on yourslef for self esteem and find a real man.

  19. Jane,
    Do what you will with YOUR life, but be careful when you have the power to bring another life into the world.

    That new life deserves a clean exsistence free of convicted felons and prison visits. Wise up because you’re right, your clock is ticking and time is wasting away while you spend it on someone who will never get out of prison!

  20. I hope everything works out for you Jane. I know all people can change and I hope for your sake that Josh is a changed man.

  21. note from blog owner

    OK, due to comment that have not and will not be published, I will no longer approve any comments that are just about Josh and Jane Bailey and their relationship. Their relationship is not important. What is important here is the victim, Donald Frier.

  22. Bonnie, you’re right. The issue here should not be the relationship between Josh and Jane; the issue here is the murder of Donald Frier. Mr. Frier was obviously a good man who stood up for others and he unfortunately paid the ultimate price for his courage.

    I hope anyone that wants to discuss the rights of those involved in this case looks first–and only–at the rights of Donald Frier. This man had a right to life and Josh Bailey and Nathaniel Gates took that right away from him. He will never marry, have a family, grow old with the people who love him, etc., because of the actions of Mr. Bailey and Mr. Gates. Even if Mr. Bailey did not hold the victim’s head underwater, he helped to beat the victim unconscious, making him unable to defend himself against the final assault that killed him. He is every bit as culpable as Mr. Gates in this crime and deserves to be punished to the fullest extent of the law.

    I’m glad Josh Bailey is a changed man, but that doesn’t mean he should escape punishment for the crime he committed. Ten or fifteen years in prison is not enough for beating and drowning an innocent man. And when you murder or help to murder another human being, you should not only lose the right to be free, but you should lose other rights as well, such as the right to be a parent.

    My thoughts and prayers are with the family and friends of Donald Frier, the most important person in this story–and one who is no longer here to add his voice to the conversation because of Mr. Bailey and Mr. Gates.

  23. Hey Jane,
    Just curious as to the different sentences given in the case. Why is Gates eligible for release 2016 and in a minimum security workcamp? Did he plea or testify against your husband or what ? Just curious.

  24. Ya I was wondering that too y did he get less time

  25. This show makes me sick! My oldest sister was brutally murdered when she was just 2 years old by her own mother and stepfather. The mother was charged with 2nd degree and only recieved 25 years. While in prision she got a degree in social work. She was released early because no one objected her parole (we didn’t know we could do that) she now has a very well paying job, she’s married, and has a VERY nice apartment loft in NYC. I hate her and i hope she rots in hell! Why are these ppl allowed any comforts??? why is this show glorifying prision life??? The only justice i feel was served is that the B*t*H got some prision justice she got the snot beat out of her and had her uterus removed!

  26. This man Josh Bailey who is supposedly a buddist. If this is true he would accept all resposability for his actions that cost the life of a human being. What a selfish man to marry a woman that has some mental stability issues. This woman who already has no morals who files bankruptcy. Back in the day not paying your bills was a high crime. When some stops paying their bills and files for relief it cost us all. I wonder what she stated in court her reason for no longer being able to pay her bills? The only way I could ever understand this happening if the man was accually innocent. Josh Bailey is not. He is in a rough state and I do not see him every geting out. Now he’s drug this woman down with him. Her parents should have pitched a fit and stopped this from happening.

  27. He just racked up a couple more murder charges in jail!!

    http://www.hcso.tampa.fl.us/PublicInquiry/ArrestInquiry/ViewArrest?id=10060274&r1=bXVnc2hvdHMudGFtcGFiYXkuY29t&k2=LTEzNzUxMDUxMDk%3d

    • John,

      Which one? I tried to go to the website, but it is busy. I will try again later.

  28. It is not an additional murder charge. It is an order to appear in court for Joshua Bailey.

  29. dam yall attacking here as if she did the crime.. you cant help who you fall in love with!!!!! TV is the root to all evil!!!!! but I love it, and try not to judge people in 2011.

    • blackbarbie2011,

      This post is NOT about who is in love with who. It is about the murder of Donald Frier. In fact, not once did you even mention the victim. Don’t you care about the victim? Any compassion for his loved ones? This is NOT about Jane Bailey.

  30. ok, I did watch the show and i have read every one of the posts…this is my opinion, which i have the right to have, I understand what people are saying when they say that Josh doesnt have the right to have kids and he is in prison and all of that, my problem is that, if they can PROVE that he did not participate in what led to the death of what i would refer to as a hero (donnie), then I beleive his sentence should be commuted. The other persons got 20yrs…if he can prove that he didnt commit and act that caused the death then no he doesnt belong in prison for life. So that is where my ambiguity comes in to this…As far as the child part goes, my husband died and I am a single parent and would never chose this for a child (having a choice) a child needs a mom and a dad..a child is a child and deserves a father, we as mothers think and I know I do, I tend to believe I can overcompensate for the death of my four childrens dad, and can try like hell, maybe even come close but I will never be a substitute for a father to these kids, they need him, they want him, and they have the right to have him, so I am completely against having a child when the father is in prison first you have to deal with the fact that the kid doesnt have a dad around second the finacial is unbelievable babies need everything and from the show it looks like that is an issue i know it is for me, constantly i never have enough money. and third the father is in Prison that alone will be a struggle. The show was to me a sell out on the victim, i believe it should of been more from his angle after all he was the hero/victim as far as I am concerned and to be honest I would of been ten times more interested to know more about his life, but it was called PRISON WIVES so i knew going in I would be watching a show about prisoners wives and it did give you a perspective from a criminals wifes point of view who is also innocent in all of this and just wants what we all want, a family, happiness etc…i feel that, i mean we all want that, on the show Jane you came across lovely, sensible, likeable, but also a little vulnerable when people said things to you, i bet you already know to be true. No respectable doctor or lawyer would ever tell a lovely young lady to bring a child into your situation. I wouldnt and I am neither a doctor or a lawyer. If your husband is proven innocent from the actual murder part then…….and evidence will speak for itself, but if not, I doubt any judge will allow a child to be concieved by a prisoner i think he would be laughed off the bench and I dont wanna take away your hope, hold on to your hope, you have earned it through your genuine love for your husband, your hard work, and your persistance…good luck to you! The only other thing I wanna say is I sincerely hope most of all…that donnies family is ok, and that donnie is at peace, what a hero he is to that community and an inspiration to me, i would be proud if any of my kids turned out like him.

  31. I wanna make one more thing clear, i do believe Josh is guilty, I try to keep an open mind though and when in the show Josh said “there is evidence that will show I didnt commit the murder part of this crime” my first thought was Ok..lets see it, until then he is where he belongs….

  32. wow…..crazy story I just seen the show last night flipping through the channel. However I feel sorry for Jane..sorry that she is wrapped up in a situation that seems like she is wasting her time. Joshua will probably never get out. Most appeals especially with murder are hardly ever overturned. While the show was good and kind of sad, I still feel Jane deserves to be happy with someone she can have more than a prison relationship with. There are millions of men out there who didnt make bad choices as Josh did and now Josh has to spend the rest of his life behind bars. Sympathy for Josh? Absolutely not. Sympathy for Jane? Maybe, I only pray she wakes up one day to realize she is wasting her time. If Josh could go back in time I am sure he would, but he cant whats done is done. He needs to pay he is lucky he didnt get the death penalty. I am not here to judge to so simply state my thoughts on the Josh and such. God Bless the victim’s family, and I am sorry you have to continue to re live this crime with shows such as these prision wives.

  33. I watched the show and I just cant believe that someone would bring a child into this world knowing that the father is in prison and for life.. It doesnt make any sincs. And this has nothing to do with what kind of people they are it has to do with why would ne one do that… I can only think of one thing.. Selfish!!! They kid would never know its father and why would you do that to someone you love as much as your child!! I could argue this topic forever!! Bring it!! ;D

  34. FYI he has been released as of January 1, 2011. I don’t know why.

    • Amy,

      According to the Florida Corrections Offender Network, both convicted men are still incarcerated. Which one were you talking about?

  35. I’m watching the show on Josh Bailey now and it makes me sick to my stomach to hear this story about Josh getting married and how he did not mean to do what he did. I think we should see a show on the victims family and how they are dealing with the loss of their family member. I could care less what happens to Josh since he didn’t care what he was doing to the victim at the time of the Murder. I think anyone who marry’s a Murderer in prison is just a stupid as the person committing the crime and should be locked up. Sorry if I afended anyone in this message, however I believe the victim should be praised for standing up for what right and not the “P.O.S” who took his life.

  36. I have just finished watching Prison Wives. I know this programme was made quitesome time ago, but I feel for Jane, she was wronged by her husband, and then went on to marry Josh! Oh dear! I hope for her sake that he is all he says he is, and that he is innocent of that poor mans murder. But i have a feeling he isn’t! she deserves so much better, and would make such a good mum.
    But the people I feel most foris mr friers family, who have to put up with the fact their son, brother etc has been brutally murdered, I hope they have the support they need to cope with their loss.
    I am glad that Jane is not my daughter as I don’t think I could condone her choices in life.
    She seemssuch a compassionate person but so needy
    Dee
    Wales UK

  37. Brutaly beaten and drowned by 2 people they better never get out.

  38. Dear Anonymous,
    I am married to a prisoner imprisoned in the New York state department of corrections. We receive family visits. Like it or not 95% of men in prison return to society. Most of the families of incarcerated loved ones who live in a state that have family visits has long-since known how this important tool bonds the prisoner to their family and community. It is an important part of the rehabilitation of offenders. As research has shown, a strong community support system is a vital element in the successful transition of offenders from incarceration back into the community. Arguably, the most important correctional tool to assist offenders in maintaining stable family relations is a visitation program that allows for meaningful interaction with the significant persons in their lives. Visitation privileges have been linked to increased positive behavioral adjustment while incarcerated and lower recidivism rates upon release. Why would you deny a program where 44% of those who take part never return to crime. When 19% who do not take part in the FRP program end up in prison again. It’s not too difficult to figure out it’s about job security and your over inflated payroll. You need to be fired. You have no business talking in a forum about your job or the families of prisoners period. You’re paid by the state to do a job. Not gossip on blogs. It shows your lack of character and professionalism. New York has the highest wrongful conviction record in the country. With 1 out of every 100 New Yorkers in prison or on parole. Either the state breeds the most evil people on the planet or something else is going on. It’s that way to supply over 50 correctional facilities in the upstate region with bodies. The biggest employer in upstate New York in DOC’s. There are no other jobs. Whole towns are supported by prisons. When they closed Lyons prison there was 54 CO’s for 44 inmates. Then they were all crying about their jobs. Men are getting out of prison and leaving the state. Why do you think in the past decade New York population has declined 20%. All of you know ( CO’s) the countless men in prison for nonsense. I have them tell me all the time. Your husband is a good man. He has no business being in here. There are men serving 50 years for a robbery that any any other state would of been about 15 years. These facilities are supposed to be about rehabilitation.A wrongful conviction can happen to any family. If the rate continues in New York in the next 10 years it will be 1 and every 15 persons in prison. All you have to do is google wrongful conviction in New York to see the problem. They even have a task force because of the countless cases. So can you imagine going into a prison when your husband is actually innocent. Then you have disrespectful correctional officers looking at you are treating you like scum. My husband was wrongfully convicted. This could happen to you people. I stay with my husband because he’s a good man. If he was not I would not be married to him. New York state stole my husbands life. They stole my life. I won’t let them steal my marriage. The majority of correctional officers in New York are the very low end of the IQ scale and would not be able to function or compete in the real world marketplace with the lack of professionalism they show on a consistent basis. I’ve spent years documenting New York CO’s comments and stupidity online to prove how corrupt and inhumane they are. There is a need for prisons. There are some people that should never be among humanity again. You my gutless anonymous friend have no business working in the field. With your lack of ethics it;s a matter of time before you’re behind bars. I’ve been the victim of crime. I have the deepest sympathy for any crime victim. My family is a victim. I just refuse to turn into the monsters that I fear. I’m better than that. I have empathy. I grew up in a war torn country. I know pain. I came to the United States thinking it was the land of the free and brave. New York is supposed to be the empire state. When in reality it should be called incarceration nation. This site is supposed to be about support for victims families. All I see is hate and anger. You my friends are the ones in need of therapy. Hate does not heal. Get’s some help for that. You all need it.

  39. dear jane, please wake up !! just looking at his dead fish eyes made my skin crawl….hes says hes a buddist yes ?? well a true buddist would not blame drugs for his actions, a true buddist excepts 100 per cent his own actions, this man will cause you nothing but heart ache jane, but for now enjoy this little fantasy world because thats what it is for you jane, a nice safe fantasy, but except it jane……hes not coming home and do you know why ??? he killed a man !!! thats right jane lover boy is a murderer….now smell the coffee and go meet a good decent man and have a happy good life , and leave the pretend wanna be buddist to do his karma alone…..,

  40. anonymous,

    If you read the motion, it tells how the murder occurred.


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