Paul L’Ecuyer
Drunk Driving Accident Kills Tucson Cyclist
Laughing jailhouse phone call gets woman tough sentence
Kimble: Cyclist deserved to live a full life
Woman Gets Maximum Prison Term After Laughing About Murder Victim’s Death
Woman Jailed After Laughing Over Victim
Woman Sentenced To Prison For DUI Death
Jailhouse calls lead to longer sentence
Melissa Arrington
oh no….
this girl is seriously trippin
she has no remorse for the dude that she killed
that dude had no right to die he was just on his bike doin his thing and then he gets hit by some drunk lady in the car.
Have fun in jail…..
don’t drop the soap…
and the guy she was tlking to need to be in jail and the guy he was tlkin about all of them need to be in jail
no as a matter of fact they need to be dead along with the guy she killed.
Real Rap
Peace out .>=[
By: Aniyah on January 24, 2008
at 8:32 am
Yea hi…
if you were to ask me i think this woman Ms.Melissa Arrington is so disrespectful.!How are you going to agree saying that he should die,like i went to cnn.com and listened to the phone call. Like she had no sympathy what so ever. How can you kill someone especially when your drunk and not even feel sorry? I think someone needs to knock some sense into her. How would she like it I were to kill someone she was very close to when i was drunk and then laugh about it…. not saying i would cause dude. im only 12.but thats becides the point… Now that i see how ignorant she is i praise the lord that i dont know her. Oh and if i was one of her friends and i found out that she did this i would slap her so hard in the face her grandkids would feel it. thank god,thank god! this woman is behind bars. And the person that was also involved in the phone call they need to get smacked! Like dude how could you say something like that.. well i gotta do my classwork so bye
By: christina on January 24, 2008
at 8:33 am
Dumb heartless bitch. I’m glad they gave her the max, she deserves no less.
By: Lisa on January 24, 2008
at 8:39 am
oh no…
this woman if thats what you want to call melissa arrington is so disrespectful.
how could you kill someone when your drunk and have no sympathy what so ever.
thats rude dude.. thats really rude!
and the poor man who died like i feel bad fro his family and friends…
i heard her phone call like she needs to get slapped .
how could you say that about someone and the person she was talkin to needs to get dropped. like real rap.
how would she like it if i smaked someone wit my car when i was drunk and i killed them and that person just happened to be er best friend.
not sayin that i would cuz dude im only 12.
but whatever shes rude and needs to get in a fight in jail,…
i hope someone drops her.
she deserves it.
im out gotta do my classwork..
byeee.
ps- melissa I HATE YOUU.!
have fun eating your nassty grilled cheese sandwiches and your burgers in jail.
=]
xoxo christina
By: christina on January 24, 2008
at 8:40 am
Not so funny now is it?
By: Nathan on January 24, 2008
at 8:50 am
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By: paul l ecuyer Trendy Here! on January 24, 2008
at 8:52 am
Regarding the Blog owner: Freedom of Speech was intended to be absolute. How can you say that you would delete anything “argumentative”? What is hate? I see a note of hate above.
If you are going to censor people, don’t play to freedom of speech. What you define as offensive may not be to someone else. Draconian speech codes are fine within anyone’s private realm; after all, this is your blog. Just admit you employ one. Or at least leave the freedom of speech commentary out of your rules.
You might want to include the text of the call. And the sentence was in fact one year shy of the maximum.
My comment: if someone is driving on a suspended license due to a prior DUI, should they not be charged with a host of crimes and senten ced fro each? How is ten years justice?
Would you want this woman out in society, with the chance she would do this again? And speaking of hate, Melissa celebrated killing a gay guy and a Frenchman.
She felt she did the world a favor. I might feel like her death falls into the same category. But would allow me to hate her? I hate her. I do. I admit it. I hope my speech won’t get me censored. Or is it only okay to hate people who hate the right way?
Words for thought.
note from blog owner to Brian:
Please do not come to my blog and tell me how to run it. And you have obviously never studied the Constitution or taken a class on it or you would know that Freedom of Speech was not meant to be absolute. The classic example of this is yelling fire in a crowded theater. That is not protected. If your reference is to the comments before yours, they may not be nice, but that is not the hate speech I talked about. Not even close. I do NOT have to justify myself or my blog to you. If you are offended or upset, don’t come back.
And I personally believe that Melissa should have received life in prison. So no, I do not believe that justice has been served. And I also wish there was some way to prosecute her friend. But that is a personal opinion. And you can hate whoever you want to hate. That is your choice. I do not make your choices. I only make mine. And no, you have not been censored.
By: Brian Ethan on January 24, 2008
at 9:12 am
Brian,
If you don’t like the way Bonnie does things. Stay off her blog.. She deletes things that are offending to the victims familes or if it is racists. She has that right, just like you have the right to not get on HER page.
If she thinks it is offensive to people, she has the right to delete the comments.
By: Lavonna on January 24, 2008
at 9:40 am
For once a judge does the right thing and gives the right sentence for the crime. Lets just hope some other bleeding heart, dogooder judge doesn’t come along and over-rule this judge. It has been known to happen.
By: Bruce on January 24, 2008
at 10:59 am
It was her caller friend that said all those bad things about the cyclist. Melissa is just a follower, and laughed about his comments. She has low self esteem and just went along. Her caller friend is probably laughing now with his friends about how he help add on more years to Melissa’s jail sentence. Calling her a stupid idiot…and that is how she is perceived by America now because of his heartless call.
By: Chuck on January 24, 2008
at 11:22 am
Lavonna,
Thank you! You know I was on my way to defend my girl Bonnie.
By: Shauncey on January 24, 2008
at 12:40 pm
I knew you would, but I just had to speak my piece
By: Lavonna on January 24, 2008
at 12:45 pm
Chuck,
Yes, it was her friend on the phone that said those things, but she did say some things herself and she AGREED and LAUGHED. AND she also blamed the witness, for not calling 911 faster. So don’t try to justify her actions. And not only that, all of this occurred because SHE WAS DRIVING DRUNK. And it was not her first offense at this. She needs to take the blame and the responsibility for it and grow up. She deserves life in prison.
By: mylifeofcrime on January 24, 2008
at 1:44 pm
mylifeofcrime,
Couldn’t of been said any better.
By: Shauncey on January 24, 2008
at 5:55 pm
Come on guys…
Only one commenter here who has the imagination to see the obvious, that she was just going along with her friend in the way women do, and the chances are that in the stillness of her own thoughts she almost certainly feels not only frightened by her chances of prison for so many years but also as sick as anyone else does at the realization she has killed someone else. You dont have to be a treehugger to see this, just have some imagination. And by the way, talking so easily about ten years in prison show an equal lack of imagination as to what prison really means as an experience day after day, probably the most crushing and twisting experience we have to mete out to our fellow Americans. The whole idea of basing a sentence on a single phone call supposedly indicating lack of imagination and empathy on the part of the probably rather dumb prisoner is itself evidence of lack of imagination and empathy of the part of the judge, not that that is anything unusual.
Lets use our imagination in dealing with cheaply reported stories of human dumb mistakes and lack of social sensitivity or we will be doing exactly what we think the culprit was doing, being callous.
Let’s be human in dealing with other humans.
By: hereticnyc on January 24, 2008
at 9:53 pm
My husband is a Peace Officer in Arizona and if you really want to see what repeat offenders are like, call your local law enforcement agency and go on a ride along during a DUI Taskforce! I went last year for the first time and my eyes were opened wide. Many of these people have no regard for you or me on the road. They are typically selfish and manipulative of the system. They use all kinds of excuses including their children who are often in their vehicles as a reason they should not be hauled in to jail, crying begging and pleading for another chance just to go out and do the same thing again and again.
Both my husbad and I were hit by drunk drivers, he nearly lost his leg and had to have reconstructive surgery on his face. I was lucky in my accident. I walked away with a minor head injury and the roof of my car 100 feet away and all 4 tires rolling down the freeway.
She has no regard for what she has done, and laughing today proved it. The only justice this poor man’s family sees is 10 years and she’ll probably get out and do it again in 10 years whether she has a license or not.
By: destinyfay on January 24, 2008
at 10:28 pm
hereticnyc,
Apparently you did not read everything. It was not just one phone call. One call was where she was laughing, the other was HER and then she was blaming the witness too. So, it was not based on a single sentence. Sorry. She needs to learn remorse and she herself needs to learn empathy.
And please don’t base all women on her actions. I would NEVER act like that. Well, I would not drink and drive. But even if I did once and got caught, I certainly would not do it again! And then lie about how much I had to drink when the blood-alcohol tests proves otherwise.
Drinking and driving is unacceptable, period. And I have no sympathy for her, just for the friends and family of the real victim, Paul. He did not deserve this. Nor does he deserve people trying to defend her actions.
By: mylifeofcrime on January 24, 2008
at 11:55 pm
Destinyfay,
I thank God that you and your husband lived through being hit by drunk driver. So many people everyday die from that and you are one of the lucky ones.
By: Lavonna on January 25, 2008
at 8:17 am
hereticnyc,
I think I will use my imagination. I close my eyes and see a woman who deserves to be where she is due to her OWN stupidity, lack of remorse AND lack of class. If I keep on imagining, I can thank God that she only carelessly killed ONE person, and not other innocent victims who are going about their everyday lives, not knowing that a drunk driver will change everything that they lived for. Show sympathy for Melissa?? Never.
Now close your eyes and imagine how the victim’s family feels and how they are dealing with this senseless loss.
By: Shauncey on January 25, 2008
at 9:43 am
“And by the way, talking so easily about ten years in prison show an equal lack of imagination as to what prison really means as an experience day after day, probably the most crushing and twisting experience we have to mete out to our fellow Americans”
But ten years is lenient, hereitnyc, for taking somebody’s life after driving drunk and being reckless, and not seeming to have any regard for human life both before and after murder. The most crushing and twisting experiences that have been meted out to our fellow Americans are not 10 years in prison supported by taxpayers, but rather the taking of innocent lives and the losses the victims’ families have to live with all because somebody drunk made to get the decision to get behind the wheel of thier car. Then for the person responsible to have no remorse over the death and laughing at her friend’s comments a week later. It angers me that somebody can laugh off killing another person like it’s no big deal. Paul’s family and friends are in mourning they’ve lost a great brother/son/etc and then a week after his death they have to hear that the drunk driver responsible for the death and some friend of hers are acting as though they did the world a favor by murdering this guy. Bonnie is right-Melissa should have received a life sentence. It is not a matter of just one telephone call, although that call was pretty indicative of her callousness. This wasn’t the first time Melissa drove drunk as has been pointed out and what’s to say that when she gets out of prison that it won’t be the last time?
By: Lisa on January 25, 2008
at 8:06 pm
Melissa was driving on a SUSPENDED license for DUI.
Then she hits and KILLS Paul L’Ecuyer. DUI yet again. And she blames someone else for him dying. Wow. What a rosy world SHE lives in.
Or, rather….LIVED in.
Now her world is grey. Prison grey, that is.
As it should be. What a fine example of reckless disregard for others.
When she chose to drive drunk, I think it was murder when she hit Paul. Not negligent homicide.
She got off easy.
Yeah! What she said!
By: CathyM on January 26, 2008
at 12:56 pm
All of what you all say is true, but what is the cause of all this calamity? The wretched woman is obviously not very bright, so you can’t exactly blame her for not being sensitive to the consequences of her actions before she caused the calamity, since she surely was too dumb to imagine what might happen, and act responsibly. If she was smart, THEN you might blame her ie it is sort of premeditated, and therefore she needs and deserves to be strung up for her evil neglect of other people’s lives and welfare, since what she has meted out consciously she would deserve to have revenged on her in like measure.
But she is obviously plain dumb and her mental framework is not up to the challenge of being aware of such responsibility even if she was able to think of her behavior in realistic terms. It is like a teenager who drives recklessly, it comes out of her nature and her limitations.
Once it is brought home to her after it happens you can be sure she will regret it, and I am sure that it wont take many hours let alone days weeks and months and years rotting in one of these grave for her top wise up, If she didnt wise up then but laughed at what she had done then you could blame her and beat it into her, yes.
But it seems to me that dumb people who cant imagine what they are risking in terms of other people’s lives are not the right target for the severe blame and vindictive revenge feelings that we all have when we contemplate such things as if the person had the whole set of possibilities in mind when they were misbehaving, which takes smarts.
Everyone who reads the story and views the whole thing in hindsight can see all this very well and naturally feels like beating this insensitive person insensible, but your mental framework is not what she was in. She didnt see what was coming. She was too dumb.
Her whole demeanor in the phone call shows how dumb she was and the dumb level on which she was operating. So wanting to send her to jail for ten years is like wanting to kick a cripple for taking too long in getting on a bus.
I am not trying to be clever, I just think you have to factor in how dumb people are. Most of us are very dumb a lot of the time, since we work on reflexes most of the time and just fit in with the people we are associating with. In this case her friends were obviously as shit dumb as she was/is.
Same thing applies to the Hannibal Lectors of the world who boil their murder victims to make soup. They are so round the bend that one can’t say You disgusting monster you should know better and hang them for it. They just aren’t sane. If they were they wouldn’t do it.
In this case the judge should simply jail her for as long as it takes to make sure she gets the message and will never do it again, not as deserved moral punishment, whatever horrors she has visited upon others. You wouldn’t shoot a lion for eating a child that falls into its cage at the zoo, I hope.
I am not saying we dont feel like it, sure, we all feel like kicking her stupid fat dumb unthinking ass. I am just saying that a judge should know better and think on a higher lane than “here’s ten years in a cell because you laughed like an idiot when on the phone with your idiot friend.”
By: hereticnyc on January 26, 2008
at 9:37 pm
hereticnyc,
Guess what, that is the Judge’s job, to do exactly what he did. He needed to let her know that all of her behavior was unacceptable, including her behavior after the arrest. It ALL counts. If she had made herself into an angel, I bet you would have wanted that to have been talked about.
You say that the Judge should simply jail her for as long as it takes to make sure she gets the message? Are you kidding me? Jail time is not like that. It should be a punishment. I do not believe she was given a long enough sentence, personally. Remember, a man died. He was murdered. She should have received alot more time, but the law did not allow it. And I do not believe your words about the “Hannibal Lectors” of the world. Not all of them are insane. That is the lay person speaking, not the educated person. I know that most of them are just plain psychopaths that deserve the death penalty. Can you prove that each and every one of them are “insane”? There is more to “insanity” than meets the eye.
You say she is dumb. Fine, yes she is, since she continually was drinking and driving. But please do not try to justify her actions. It does not shine a good light on you.
By: mylifeofcrime on January 27, 2008
at 8:57 pm
hereticnyc,
Ok, so we all know she’s dumb. Your point?? If it’s not her fault, then whose fault is it, the victims??
I reread your comment. You did alot of talking, but didn’t actually SAY anything. She should have LIFE in prison for what she did. This was not her first offense with this issue.
By: Shauncey on January 29, 2008
at 9:13 am
hereticnyc,
I really don’t think she is “disabled” as you have compared her to a cripple. Naive maybe but nothing else. I am not sure you are around people such as her often enough to really understand the problem in Arizona that we see, granted the problem of drunk driving is world wide but here there is little to no adequate public transit system so we deep;y rely on our cars to get anywhere and even though privleges were revoked (PUNISHMENT) she made the decision to get behind a wheel and drive. She also had to do a MINIMUM of 24 hours in a facility AFTER her first DUI conviction (PUNISHMENT) suspending the other 29 days and that is if she followed her probation. She also had to pay court fees and fines (PUNISHMENT) go to an alcohol class (PUNISHMENT) and perform community service (PUNISHMENT.) She was also on probation for 1 year (PUNISHMENT.) She not only was she DUI again but she violated her probation 1) drinking is a violation 2) driving is a violation 3) DUI is a violation then to top it off she kills somebody in an accident while committing these offenses! For each of those 3 acts alone she would get sentenced additional time and then to kill someone that is another crime and each is considered another crime…SHE GOT OFF EASY!!!!! She never learned from what she was already sentenced to some people really need it slammed int otheir head and still they don’t get it.
I understand that laws are different in other places but no matter what the laws are here the number of DUI drivers grows and so do the number of accidents here. Now in Arizona if you get a DUI (first time offenders) you have an ignition locking device put on your car at your expense for 1 year. To start your car each time you must blow into the device..they often malfunction and the entire monitoring is on your time and on your dollar. It has been used for extreme cases and those people still have been found to drive after drinking…which if the equipment picks up on it, the info is stored and when it is downloaded your are slapped with a probation violation!
I am not sure if this makes sense, just want to enlighten a bit.
By: destinyfay on January 31, 2008
at 9:20 pm
I stand corrected by people who are in the thick of the real world that this woman inhabits, so I will shut up
I guess I am saying “nothing” because my philosophy is too abstract ie I am really just seeing the stupidity that she shows as some kind of fact like a crippled mind or damaged leg, and not something voluntary. People find it hard to understand that the mind and the internal structure of the body on an emotional level is hidden from the eyes but can be just as damaged and crippled as the physical body. The way I see it is that it is hard to really blame anybody for evil since it must come from a crippled inside, whether officially crazy, or simply something invisibly bent which hasn’t been detected by the average trusting person.
Sure we feel she should be beaten into pulp for what she has done so recklessly even after punishment but it is still morally an empty thing, there is no way of morally blaming people for their insanity or warped emotions which they have no control over and never made any choice to have that they are aware of.
Beating her into a bloody mess, or locking her into a social grave for years, is just revenge, it doesn’t have any justification as punishment. You are just a bunch of enlightened and feeling citizens judging an unenlightened and unfeeling primitive, and not realizing how different she is.
Amazing how unappreciative good people are of how different bad people are. Stop judging others as if they were yourselves. Just because you can see what is involved and behave well and not drive drunk and laugh to get along with your dumb friend about a much more valuable person you have killed doesn’t mean she was one of you and utterly twisted for misbehaving in this way, in fact, it will take much time before she can see herself as you do, if ever. A pig cannot walk a tightrope and just because you can it doesn’t make the pig a clumsy fool.
But I guess it makes you feel superior to do it, and kick this woman when she is down. Maybe you should realize that you are superior, and don’t have to do it to feel superior.
By: hereticnyc on February 1, 2008
at 12:12 am
hereticnyc,
Your opinion is valued. I just don’t understand all the jibberish. Bottom line is the girl is where she needs to be, no excuses needed.
By: Shauncey on February 1, 2008
at 10:02 am
She had an psychological exam to determine if she was compentent to stand trial, did she understand the consquences of her actions? “They” determined that she was “sane” and knew what was and what had happened. I do agree she is dumb but I also think she has been desensitized to the value of life. We all have an innate knowledge of what is right and what is wrong and she clearly violated that knowledge (again she has been punished AT LEAST once before for DUI she knew there were consequences to her actions.) Were else do you think a person who does this should be? Most prisons offer programs where just maybe she can be scared straight and maybe find some type of career path that will help people instead of mame or kill them. If there is hope for I person I agree we should try to help them but if they choose not to help themselves they aren’t going to change. hereticnyc I understand that you want to give hope to this person and her character (and just maybe you are right.) I am not self-righteous however I have seen in life that people don’t usually want to change especially when they are dependent upon substances (to get through the day or just for a good time) unless it hits them hard – REMEMBER THE THEORY OF ROCK BOTTOM. You have a valid point but unfortunately we all have seen similar situations over and over again on the news, if I ever get into trouble I would want you in my corner.
By: destinyfay on February 2, 2008
at 8:42 pm
Yeah, I agree that in this case like many others she needs to be forced to change her behavior and wise up, but what I am saying is that the judge and all of you guys made a big factor out of a passing exchange she had on the phone that could be motivated by all kinds of motivations and not be an indicator of her basic attitude at all. And you all overlook that people are varying degrees of dumb and varying degrees of upbringing and varying degrees of drug use etc etc. That is why we punish those in positions of responsibility and high office a lot more sternly than small guys who steal petty amounts. At least we should
I mean what the heck is the message of Christ if it isn’t that we need to be understanding and tolerant of sinners since we all are in various ways sinners and abuse others in some way or other, often unwittingly. Obviously you kick someone’s ass if they are dumb and cant behave but you cant get away from the fact that IF they were civilized and enlightened like y’all they would not have misbehaved in the first place.
She only needs to be jailed for the time it takes to get the message kicked into her scummy ass, and not longer. Ten years is way too much. Also a waste of tax money. Write out hour after hour after hour after hour….for as long as it takes to count ten years and you might see what I mean, and do it in a cellar with a single light bulb with only another low life to talk to who knows nothing.
jail people for ten years and you are just waterboarding them long term.
Sorry if this is all “jibberish” and high faluting candy assed tree hugging nonsense but what do you think Christ meant if not what I am saying?
By: hereticnyc on February 2, 2008
at 10:22 pm
hereticnyc:
>>>She only needs to be jailed for the time it takes to get the message kicked into her scummy ass, and not longer. Ten years is way too much<<<
Are you kidding me? So the life of the victim means nothing? SHE KILLED A HUMAN BEING. What is wrong with you? If someone killed someone you loved, would you want them out in a year or two? It is because of people like you that these people get out of jail/prison and kill again. I promise you that if it was your loved one who was killed (no matter how they were killed) you would want justice. Ten years is nothing when there was a life that was taken.
By: mylifeofcrime on February 2, 2008
at 10:28 pm
You have to keep in mind that jail or prison time is not rehabilitation time. It was originally set up as punishment only. In the last century we have added rehabilitive services alongside with the punishment, if “they” want it. In most cases they make the decision to better themselves. Regardless though her sentence is punishment for a murder intentional or not.
Who are we to decide how long it will take for her to get it through her thick skull to learn her lesson, she may never learn that drinking an driving is a BAD/DUMB/SELFISH/ETC decision. She will get out on parole in a maximum five years, because our prisons and jails are so over crowded anyways. Will she learn by then? We will have to watch the papers and news, history tells us ‘no’ but maybe, just maybe she will reach out to the resources made available and something will sink-in and she will become and enlightened human being and see what is ‘right and wrong’ in our society.
By: destinyfay on February 6, 2008
at 8:30 am
“Are you kidding me? So the life of the victim means nothing? SHE KILLED A HUMAN BEING. What is wrong with you? If someone killed someone you loved, would you want them out in a year or two? It is because of people like you that these people get out of jail/prison and kill again.”
Wow! What thoughtless Web yelling. No I am not in favor of loetting “killers” out in a couple of years to kill again, I think the parole boards are there to assess the nature of the animal in the cage in each case very carefully, since tough prisons make viciousness almost a qualification of survival according to the Utah prison documentary yesterday on MSNBC. But my point is that this wretch did not set out to kill anybody, and sure is going to be very sorry she did it through drunken carelessness if she is not already. But she is not by nature (as far as we know) a killer. She is an idiot. But hey look at this blog thread- plenty of idiocy here IMO!
I think prisons should be reformed to teach not punish, and they should have cable TV in every cell so people could be educated about the world outside their narrow experience instead of it being narrowed even tighter and lowered even further. They should have massive libraries and teaching classes in important subjects. I believe in education. I think there should be classes in handling relationships lives and careers in high school. Why aren’t there? Because the population is so badly educated they wouldn’t vote for it.
Just like the posters who have sat on me roaring how vile this wretch is cant be bothered to think about the proper evaluation of her crime. yes I would not be very objective if it was my wife that was killed by this cretin. That is why my opinion would be worth less. You get the emotion out of it and evaluate it objectively to see what the best social policy judgment is.
That is why Christ and the Bible are against revenge, I imagine. If you get emotional you cant see straight.
Too many people think emotionally, it is a real problem. You need a cool head to cure social problems. But then America’s chief weakness is that thinking is too often emotional here. Try a European and you will get a cooler more rational view in most cases.
Here people just think emotionally. Oh I love Clinton Oh I love Obama, etc. Ask them what they want these politicians to achieve and they often can’t say. They have two lovely girls from NYU on Channel 75 today in NYC and they couldn’t even tell the moderator of the discussion what they hoped their political favorites would achieve for them.
Maybe that was just the nature of yojung sexy girls but one had been an intern in Washington and they were at NYU, which is a good university.
Well I am for Obama emotionally but I also trust him to do something worthwhile – he saw the war was unwise from the very beginning. However ask me what his specifics are and I admit – I dont know either!
By: hereticnyc on February 10, 2008
at 12:19 am
You are just frustrating. You are one of the people you speak of, just on another plane. You are speaking from emotion as well.
Honestly I don’t trust one of the politicians. I have my goals for our country and I vote accordingly to the objectives I think best suited to saving our country from becoming a 3rd World country. Does that apply in our discussion, probably not right now.
I do agree parole boards are a joke, but unless we are willing to pay for more space they have to keep the prisons as “safe” as they can, or should we just slap a HUGE cable bill on instead of worrying about overcrowding some more and or let even more criminals out. Do you believe everything you see on TV? Yes many of those shows on prison life do show how violence begets violence in prison…those are the idiots who choose to nothing but sit on their hands and want cable TV to empty their brains some more. Do you realize they steal and kill because many believe that the world owes them everything. They shouldn’t have to work, they should be allowed to get high or sell your kids drugs. Many truly believe we should bow and cater to them, sorry I don’t want them around my kids. You may think prison is a place where reform should occur but guess what, prisoners have some freewill there. They can choose to work, take classes (several have gotten degrees.) Some choose programs for the sake of parole, some want to change their lives and some are just bored and want to look at another room in prison. Cable TV (HAH) you are a fool. There is little to no educational value on TV…unless you are teaching preschool then give them all the Playhouse Disney and Nick they can take. They want cable for mindless entertainment, just like the “free civilians.” I was giving you the benefit of a doubt but you have forgotten that God also commanded us to forgive but not forget (once bitten shame on you twice bitten shame on me for trusting you again.) You are hiding behind Christ but I wonder that behind the love and compassion of God you have slo forgot he wants us to live to share the word, not become scrambled brains on the road way. If you really want to change get out there and do something about it, don’t wait for your hallowed politician to do a thing, cause guess what, some buddy or lobbist already has them in their pocket. So many special interests are going to get their needs met just like every other President, Congressperson & Senator before them and you and I won’t unless we speak our voice. We are screwed as law enforcement, soliders, civilians and in General as Americans if everyone sat around waiting for some elected to fix the problems of the country. Who do you think donates all this money to these campaigns? Start writing letters, join a group and vounteer at your “local prison” go see what really happens there, do not depend on TV so much…that’s using tunnel vision, your seeing it in someone else’s eye that can be askewed.
NYC is known for being linent on drunks compared to most of the country, we warn all our friends from NYC to be extremely careful when here for the Superbowl. DUI penalities are MUCH MORE harsh than anywhere else.
Whether you agree or not, you don’t live here. You don’t see it day in and day out. 3 people died last night crashing into oncoming traffice, guess what they believe drugs &/or alcohol was a factor…this is on our news every day at least once and that isn’t all of the accidents. Arizona is cracking on DUI and crimes related because it is such a HUGE problem here. A guy just got 12 years, in TUCSON, AZ, for the same crime, and he had no phone call where he chuckled at inappropriate comments. He was drunk ran a red light and killed some one. Melissa is part of the current status quo, she just made the news because she is a bigot towards gays. Make changes in your part of the country if they work let me know – but don’t hold your breath.
By: destinyfay on February 10, 2008
at 8:05 am
“hether you agree or not, you don’t live here. You don’t see it day in and day out. 3 people died last night crashing into oncoming traffice, guess what they believe drugs &/or alcohol was a factor…this is on our news every day at least once and that isn’t all of the accidents. Arizona is cracking on DUI and crimes related because it is such a HUGE problem here. A guy just got 12 years, in TUCSON, AZ, for the same crime, and he had no phone call where he chuckled at inappropriate comments.”
yes, I can see where if things are totally out of control you might slap on extremely harsh penalties, or want to – would they really make a difference? Maybe my education line of thinking is more fruitful, and the harsh penalties are just more emotion,
Anyhow you seem to misunderstand me and have what I say backwards in two of your thoughts. I was admitting to emotionalism about politicians, as a flaw in myself. Yet you tell me I am admitting to emotionalism. Yes, I am. But at least I try not to, and know the difference.
I didnt know there was a gay angle here, sorry. That would be emotionalism, right?
Meanwhile you think I am a joke for suggesting cable TV, which you despise. Here in NYC cable TV is fabulously rich, believe it or not. From 0pera to earthquakes, book authors on C Span, etc etc etc add to Meet The Press on NBC and other good network stuff, Charlie Rose on PBS, what do you want to prove that TV is partly very good and educational?
“Cable TV (HAH) you are a fool. There is little to no educational value on TV”
WRONG! You either dont watch cable tv or your spouse/boyfriend/family whatever are always putting crap entertainment on – not that I despise Deal or No Deal, it is fascinating! A silly black girl slapped the lid down No Deal when she was offered $105,000 for a $1000-$200,000 pair of cases the other night, and lost everything. Shows how confused people are, for one thing.
You think I am frustrating but you dont even read what I say properly. I think parole boards have an important job to do, even if they dont do it well.
The key thing is how do we get DUI down and save lives – victims and drivers both, Harsh prison terms are not making any difference according to your own posts, since you are still getting too much of it.
You have to think of a better solution. Mine is to educate, turn prisons into schools and lay on cable TV to give the inmates something better to do than kill each other.
*note from blog owner*
hereticnyc–
Boy are YOU judgemental and assume alot. Personally, in my home, we watch alot of cable tv, especially crime documentaries. I watch all I can find (well, except Most Evil).
AND you say that DUI is a problem in Arizona and someone else got more time than Melissa and did not have a laughing phone call. You just proved my point. She deserved MORE time. ANYONE driving while intoxicated or on drugs and they kill someone, should get LIFE in prison. Not 10 or 12 years.
By: hereticnyc on February 10, 2008
at 11:30 am
We are never going to agree on this subject, and I can accept that. That is the beauty of living in the United of States we can have a difference of opinion. I however, will continue to seek out harsh penalties for DUIs since eduction does not seem to stike a chord in offenders. I will push that money will be spent on children in schools hopefully educating them before the start driving on the dangers of drinking and driving , rather than making life posh for inmates. You can fight for what you believe, if that is what you choose to do with your time.
By: destinyfay on February 13, 2008
at 9:53 am
Bottom line is: She did the crime, now she has to do the time. Only she should have at least 20 years BEHIND bars to think about what she’s done. She took a life. End of argument. Based on this NOT being her first drunk-driving offense, she should’ve, in my opinion, got life. She gambled with her life, but took someone else’s.
By: Shauncey on February 13, 2008
at 10:24 am
She deserves life in prison. There are people who don’t have the courage to speak up when someone says something offensive, in fact, most people are like that. If this was offensive to her and she just sat there and laughed about it simply because she didn’t have the courage to speak up, she still deserves the maximum because this is one of those rare situations where even the weakest most cowardly person would have to speak up for what is right. She already did this horrible thing and took another life, and now she is going to laugh about it (for whatever reason, wether she really thought it was funny, or simply because she was just going along with things out of having no bravery to speak). I actually think there’s lots of people out there who murdered people, deliberately, who do not deserve life in prison. I believe in temporary insanity and I actually hate judges and cops (not all, but majority)..I’m actually one of those “bleeding heart” types who doesn’t believe in the death sentence in most cases, but this is just sick and she’s sick.
By: CJ on June 11, 2008
at 12:40 pm