Serial Killer: Paul Runge murders Chicago, IL

I am the son of Stacey A. Frobel. I’m seventeen living with my grandma waiting for Paul’s execution!!! I had to live 11 years without my mom thanks to this asshole!!! Not only did my family and I suffer but other families suffored!!! I hope he gets the chair!!!

By: Danny M. on January 7, 2007
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Danny,

I am so sorry for your loss. When I was born, we lived in Streamwood, also. Been a long time, but I miss the area.

I, too, believe that Paul Runge deserves the death penalty. I am so glad that Ryan is no longer in office to take him off of death row.

Take care of yourself.

By: bmp1213 on January 7, 2007
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Hello Danny, My name is Susan, I knew your mom well. She was so much fun and made everyone smile. I took it real hard after she left. And really spent a long time hating Paul,
after the last few years with staying sober, and remembering The Stacey I enjoyed growing up with. makes Life alot easier. Dont worry God has Plans For Paul.
Your mom Loved the song HELLO, By Lionel Ritchie ,she use to play that song a million times, in one night. and she loved the Rolling Stones, Well she had a crush on Mick Jagger, LOL
She was wonderful. we would spend hours out on her bedroom window sill looking at the stars and dreaming of our future. She always wanted Children. I know shes looking down proud that she had you.
She was the best Friend any one could ask for, And she told me when you were a baby How much she Loved You and all she wanted was only the best for you and she knew your Grandma would give you the best.
your mom loved fashion from when we were in girlscouts all the way to highschool. all the girls were so jealous because your mom was the prettiest girl in the room.we use to walk around and sing to her “pretty woman walking down the street pretty woman where did you get your feet” And she would just Laugh.
Like I said Daniel , I really began to heal from your moms dealth just a few years ago, When I left Paul to God. And stayed on the right Path.and remembered my best friend as the funniest and kindest friend. Who I will see again one day .Play Hello,and know your mom loved that song .And she was very happy to have You.
say hello to your uncles and Grandma for me ok,Tell them I am now a Grandma also to a one year old.I Love It!!!!!! I also am dedicated to Church I also Voulnteer,I am Happily living with my Oldest son who joined the AirForce, His wife and I help take care of my Grandson.And I decided To stay single for a while ,I just have too much time to spend with the Kids and I love it.
Please Remember your mom as a unique Sergio Valente fan. take care Love Always and Forever Susan.

By: Susan on February 18, 2007
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~BTW~ Happy Birthday to Stacey,I remember it everyear !!!

By: Susan on February 18, 2007
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It has been 10 years since this has happen which has taken a toll on our family and weight on us for many years. It is finally good that it is almost at an end. I perfer that the SOB rot in jail. Giving him the needle is to damn easy for everything that he has done to the victims and the familys. I hope he knows that he judgement day will come and he will have to face God and be thrown to the flames that will consume him for the rest of his life.
To you Daniel sorry you had such a F*** up for a father and for your mothers lost but I am one that also believes that your mother did wrong in helping him and keeping quite until it was in her benefit to talk. Don’t mean to be hush on you because I know you have nothing to do with the decisions that were made by your parents but I a person that I might forgive but I will never forget. I don’t condemn because it’s not my place and we all have our day but for now I wish nothing but better things for you.

By: Victims Relative on April 14, 2007
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To Danny please disregrad the ending of my comment above. i was reading and my mind started going not realizing that your mother was also one of the victims. The commet as you see was towards Runge wife. So please once again I apoligize and didn’t mean it towards your mom. May she rest in peace. I know she is with God watching over you always. The very best to you and your family.

By: Victims Relative on April 14, 2007
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To last comment from victIms relitive.
I am so glad you relized that you were speaking to Stacey Frobels son!!!! I wish you actually can erase that statement completely!
My heart has always gone out to Staceys son !!!!His father had died before he was born.Niether one of them knew of Runge or his family.He grew up also with no other siblings.So this child deserves the fullest life and love I know God will give to him. I am sure he s a terrific person as of now and his future will be filled with drems come true.
I dont understand why Pauls wife is not next to him!! Thats when we really have to work hard in trusting in God.
and look at it this way as far as Pauls exucution I am happy that I will no longer have to share the same Air as him. I gladly give him to god.
and another thing I would like to mention about my friend and victim Stacey,growing up with her I have seen boys trying to kiss her and she would push them away.The boys in school would get so mad that she would not let them touch her, I have seen her get up and leave if a boy put a hand on her.So To everyone that knows about this brutal killing I know for a fact that Stacey Frobal Put up a DAMN good fight!!!
Take care
and love you very much Danny.
Susan B.you can find me on myspace ask your grandma for my last name.

May God bless you and your family.

By: Susan on April 15, 2007
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Believe me I wish i could have erased it too!!! As you have notice I realized it very quickly and made my apolgy. As you made not know “my victims” put up a fight also for I know no one would like for something like that to happen to themself or anyone they know or don’t know. Just things you don’t even wish on your worst enemy. Living it over again in a five week court room not only for my family but for others was over whelming. But GOD gave me and my family the strengh to be able to see it all the way through and hopefully we will be there when he times comes to meet the maker.

Again Danny if you ever read this I am sorry and my heart goes out to you and your family. A mistake can be easily made and asking forgiveness is not wrong when you know it needs to be asked and I have. So Susan I understand that you mihgt be a little up tight or up set but I have made my peace and hoep that you can also accept my apoligy. I am sure she was a good friend just like my family was good and unreplaceable to me.

God Bless us all.

By: Victims Relative on April 17, 2007
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No need to apologize, I was just actually hoping that Bonnie or whomever made this site would add a check comments, before we submitted them.
Please dont Fret!!!!
I am sad so much to hear of all these killings that should have been stopped before Stacey! and especially after her,
I Dont Have any answers of Why?
But I know all these wonderful Ladies!
Will Always Be Remembered!!!
Ps.28:7
The Lord is my strength and my shield;In him my heart trusts so I am helped, And my heart exults, And with my song I give thanks to him.
God Bless You Also. And I am very sorry for your loss,and if what I wrote sounded too surround. It was not meant to.
my space address ;
one-phone-call-to-heaven@hotmail.com
Susan

By: Susan on May 4, 2007
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Susan,

I don’t have a way to add a check comments on here–that is a WordPress thing it is not yet available. I can edit comments if needed and wanted. So, if someone needs or wants me to I will be happy to help out. I just did not want to *assume* and do it myself. Just let me know!

By: mylifeofcrime on May 4, 2007
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I was really good friends with Stacey, she was like my little sister, back in Hoffman Estates when she was still in high school, I wish always I would have had a chance to get to
know her as a young adult, but thanks to that prick I never will
P.S. Daniel, I hope one dasy to meet you and talk to you about how wonderful of a human being your mom was, one of the sweetest girls I ever knew. No matter how bad I felt all she needed do was smile and I’d feel better, she had the most infectious smile. And big ole boat feet…lol
God bless you Stacey, I miss you and will love you always.

By: Dave on May 4, 2007
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Thankyou for that answer of editing, I will always keep that in mind that does help.
And Hello Dave,
yes, Stacey always had that contagious smile and laughter,
Does anyone know about this appeal? I heard about?

By: Susan on May 4, 2007
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Well I am just checking in here, I have not been able to find anything new on Paul.
It would be great if we could find out whats going on with him, As far as court his jail time ext………
I am Also quite curious on how he is treated in Jail.
Does he ever show any remorse now?
I wish someone would go and interview him, Or let us know how he is living, since the Death of all these Wonderful ladies!!!
And If His wife has ever or will be charged, I really hope shes put AWAY!!!!
any info please post!!

By: Susan on May 20, 2007
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Stacey was also a very dear friend of mine. When she moved to Florida, we became close right away. She was so happy when she had Daniel. I’m so glad to have Danny in my life again, and to be able to see her smile in his eyes. Stacey was a shining star who’s life was stolen from her.

Danny, you know I love you.

Stacey…the promise I made you holds true. I miss you.

By: Tina on May 21, 2007
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Also, I wanted to say to all of the families affected by this monsters actions..that I am so very sorry. This one man has left a lot of people with heart break. I too think he should sit & rot. We all lost pieces of ourselves that can never be returned to us.

I was deeply affected by Staceys death as well. She was a very special soul, as well as Dannys father. I am very blessed that God shared her with me & my family. She touched a lot of people for the short time she was here.

When I find out whats going on with the trial, I will update.

By: Tina on May 21, 2007
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I am so happy that both Dave and also Tina contacted me.
Most of all I am very happy to be able to talk To Danny,
This is such a wonderful Blessing!!!
I thank this site for making this come true, It shows that alot of Good can come out of bad!!
I Plan on A huge Picnic in Lake Geneva in Honor Of Stacey! if any other Victims family and friends would like to participate in this.
Please Contact me at sunshinemom37@yahoo.com
this will be a celebration of thier lives with pictures and many happy stories!
Thankyou so much,
Susan

By: Susan on May 22, 2007
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If anyone is trying to contact me, my email is

gumlogmercantile “AT” hotmail.com

By: Tina on May 27, 2007
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Hello all, I wanted to share this outstanding site I came across as I was searching for any updates on Pauls Execution.
There is a site called deathrowspeaks.info . it is a actual site where people are on deathrow able to communicate via computer and write poems, letters and even give people out thier address for letters and more, I am amazed that this is really happenning!! why can this be Justice?
They should not be able to have a life just as us!!
cant this be stopped somehow?
I Hope Paul Goes soon!!!

By: Susan on June 3, 2007
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” I was searching for any updates on Pauls Execution.”

I’ll post any updates as I hear them from the family. Thanks.

By: Tina on June 6, 2007
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Victims Relative, Its all understandable! I know it was a mistake and I agree 100% with you on Paul’s girlfriend. It’s nice to know that I can hear from some one in my possition.

Tina You know I love you too!

By: Danny on July 16, 2007
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danny,
im the aunt of jessica muniz the 11 year old girl paul runge took away also. im sorry for ur lost danny. our family has also been affected ….. i hope he gets what he deserves.
~mari

By: mari muniz on July 18, 2007
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Alot of people have been effected. mari muniz I am also sorry for your lost! I have a question for any who knows the answer! Does anyone know the name of Paul Runge’s girlfriend? I’m trying to do a search and figure some things out. If anyone can help me out with that please email me at got2be2010@aol.com thank you Stacey Frobel’s son

By: Danny on August 19, 2007
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Danny the only thing I know is when the detectives interviewed me they kept on mentioning if I ever heard of a Charlene ?, And I wish I did.
but that is all I can remember, but I will tell you one thing Danny they did have a incling of something.
Stay Strong !!!
Dont Give up !!!
Your Mom Was A Amazing Person.
She Loves you Still !!!!!!!!!!!
and so do I.
If your going to pursue any Closure for you that you may need or want…..
By all means do so.
God Bless you.
Love,
Susan

By: susan on August 21, 2007
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This is my first time hearing about this, and my heart has sunk. I went to school with Stacey. Susan and I were old friends, we were just reunited, and that is how I learned of Stacey’s tragedy. I cannot even imagine the horror of her passing or the heartbreak of her family, and child. We hear about these things on the news everyday, but it’s very rare that it hits home and we are personally affected. It helps me to believe that the Good Lord was with her, and held her hand. I pray for you, Danny and your family that you find peace. Justice will be served when Paul meets his maker. God Bless you all

By: Rene' on October 22, 2007
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Rene,
you took the words right out of my mouth when you said, The Good lord was holding her hand.
along with the other victims.
that I know is True !!!
Susan

By: susan on November 14, 2007
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I grew up in the same town as Stacey & new her very briefly before I left Hoffman Estates & it was only very recently (due to Classmates.com) that I have been put back in touch with some old friends & learned of this tragedy. Danny, & all of the families & friends of Paul Runge’s victims who were affected by this, you all have my sincerest sympathies. Just trust that Mr. Runge’s eternity looks quite bleak. He will suffer & the suffering that awaits him is forever with no chance for parole. I believe that there is a very special place in Hell for monsters like him.

By: Greg S. on November 14, 2007
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Happy Holidays To Danny And The Rest Of Staceys Family.
Love, Susan

By: susan on November 29, 2007
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To all who’s lives were altered by the existence of Paul Runge, my deepest sympathies. My daughter went to school with Paul and my daughter had complained that Paul had touched her inappropriately, she was 10 years old at the time. Her father and I went directly to see the principal, Mr. Bacon and demanded something be done, we were asked if possibly my daughter had solicited this! At this time we told him that if this were to happen again in the future we would have him arrested. The school system thought appropriate action at this time was to move his locker further from my daughter’s. He again showed up about 3 years later on bike looking for my daughter at our home. I am grateful my daughter had such an awful feeling about him and wanted to stay as far away from him as possible, or perhaps our lives could have been altered. I guess the reason I’m writing this is to say that perhaps if the school would have taken this issue seriously, perhaps these innocent women would be alive today. Paul and my daughter were 10 years old when this occured.

By: Pam on December 29, 2007
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Danny….below is an article I found with information on Pauls wife…Hope this helps…Your mother was a very beautiful person. Know that she watches over you!
article below by:
by Seth Goldstein
February 02, 2006

Pictured on the television screen in the courtroom was Paul Runge, in an official jail garment, admitting he raped and murdered a Northwest Side woman and her 11-year old daughter.

Seated behind the television set Thursday was Runge, 35, now wearing a dark suit with a blue tie as he stared down at the defense table, covering his eyes with his hands, not saying a word.

Runge was averting his eyes from watching his first videotaped interview with Chicago police about the 1997 rape and murder of Yolanda Gutierrez, 35, and her daughter, Jessica Muniz.

“I saw the knife over there and I picked it up,” Runge said during the 30-minute videotaped statement while describing the murder weapon. “I went over to the mother and cut her neck. Then I took the knife and did it to [the daughter's] neck.”

But the videotaped statement, recorded on June 7, 2001, differed from what prosecutors had previously told the jury now hearing evidence in the third day of Runge’s Criminal Court trial. Prosecutors contended Runge committed the crimes alone. But in the tape played Thursday Runge told police that his wife at the time, Charlene “Sherri” Runge, was also involved in the murders.

Runge allegedly raped Gutierrez and Muniz, slashed their throats and set them on fire in their own bed on Nov. 3, 1997. Prosecutors said Runge gained access to Gutierrez’ Northwest side apartment by responding to an advertisement at a local grocery store for a “Hooked on Phonics” set.

Runge said Sherri, who has since divorced Runge and remarried, came with him to Gutierrez’ apartment to purchase the educational material for their 9-year-old son, but she became jealous when she thought Gutierrez was flirting with her husband.

“[Sherri] started giving me a hard time,” Runge said in the statement. “Sherri’s really jealous. She doesn’t trust anybody.”

Runge told police that Sherri attacked Gutierrez, which caused him to bind Gutierrez and her daughter with duct tape to calm down his wife. He then described how he took the victims to the bed, made love to his wife in between the two victims, raped both Gutierrez and her daughter, slit their throats with a knife and set fire to the bed after his wife poured turpentine over the bodies.

“[Sherri] said we can’t leave them like this,” Runge said while describing how it was his wife’s idea to kill and burn Gutierrez and Muniz. “She opened the can [of turpentine] and poured it over them.”

But former Area 5 Detective Sergeant Frank Cappitelli, the lead investigator of the crime, said Runge’s wife’s denied participating in the murder in an interview three days after Runge’s statement.

Solveig Sullivan, former forensic biologist with the Illinois State Police Forensic Science Center, who was responsible for analyzing all the evidence taken from the crime scene, testified that she found semen on Muniz’ body.

According to Solveig’s report, the DNA from the semen sample was Runge’s.

“I told [Runge] that this consistency could only occur during one-out-of-2 trillion whites,” Cappitelli said noting what he said to Runge in confronting him with the scientific evidence.

Runge talked about his mental health towards the end of the taped interview, and at one point admitted that “mental help would be a thing I need.”

Defense attorneys, mounting an insanity defense, focused on that statement and questioned Cappitelli about Runge’s mental state during the interview.

Cappitelli was unable to speculate about Runge’s mental health, either during the alleged murder or the interview.

According to Cappitelli, another videotaped statement was shot five days later, but he was not present for it and could not testify to what was said during it.

Prosecutors will continue to present their case, including the second videotaped interview, Friday

By: Celeste on December 31, 2007
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Here is a link to another site. I will not post the article itself here because it is very graphic and disturbing. It states that his wife was involved in Staceys and 3 other murders with Paul but the state granted her immunity for testifying against Paul…HUH??????????? ARE YOU KIDDING ME??????????? This makes me SICK!!!!
She will have to answer to God!

http://www.skcentral.com/news.php?readmore=1436

By: Celeste on December 31, 2007
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I cannot believe this woman is allowed to be walking around, there is a very Big Flaw in the system she could have stopped these murders all along.
there should be no amunity to conspiracy !
she acted as a part to this grully torment of these women,
she broght Stacey to Paul-and that should be enough for life behind bars.
I hope a Good hearted strong willed Lawyer may find thier way to Bring Her To Justice- once and for all.
Susan
Stay strong Danny, Angels come in many diffrent ways, shapes & sizes, Your Mom was one of the best-her heart was Pure !
Love Susan
And Hey,Celeste Thanks for the info.

By: susan on January 3, 2008
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Celeste…there are so many ‘what-if’s’…I used to always think that if I had only talked Stacey into staying in Florida, this never would have happened to her. It was all part of Gods plan for some reason. Stacey touched so many people in her short stay here. I can say that my life changed, having been her friend. Watching her beautiful glow when she found out she was pregnant…to watching her hold her new son, with such love in her eyes & heart. I think of her so much, and miss her terribly.

We will never know what happened exactly. I think Charlene did know & helped hide it. She married the guy shortly after Stacey was killed…and she knew what a monster he was.

Disgusting.

This has really tormented a lot of families…my heart goes out to each of them. We share your pain.

By: Tina Trivett on January 12, 2008
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Hi Everyone,

First, I’d like to pass my condolences to the families of the victims. I truly believe Paul Runge is evil and I am torn between hoping he gets put to death and hoping he spends the rest of his days rotting away in prison, thinking about his atrocities.

I’m sad to say that I was a classmate of Paul in middle school (Arbor Park Middle School in Oak Forest) although he was never a close friend. He was always a troubled kid- both academically and social/emotionally. He was in special education classes from at least 5th grade to 8th grade and was even held back a year. At that time (the mid 1980’s), APMS didn’t have a counselor or a social worker to help or diagnose at-risk kids like Runge. The only people we had were the Principal and the Assistant Principal (Mr. Bacon), who acted as more of a Dean than anything. I remember Bacon wasn’t respected much by the kids at the time and was a bit worthless in retrospect.

Runge was a gifted athlete and he was always large for his age. Most kids were intimidated by his size and his mean streak. He was pretty cocky because a lot of girls were interested in him at the time, mostly because he looked about 17-18 years old when he was only 13-14. I went off to a different high school and the next I heard of him, he had been arrested at about 16 years old for the rape and imprisonment of a 14 year old girl. Then he went to prison and I didn’t hear any more about him until all his other crimes surfaced years later.

My heart goes out to Danny who lost a mother and all the other families who had their lives changed forever by this monster.

By: APerson on January 15, 2008
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Celest Thank you for the info, Susan thank you for your prayers. Tina, Miss talkin to ya but question? Carlene, do you mean carlena? Cause if your talking about Stacey’s friend Carlena I know her and live by her. I would like to know so much more. I just turned 18 now and I would like to know the truth in every way possible. I believe that my mom’s husband at the time, Jeff, had something to do with it, I think he had a big part of it. With the way he treated us. She died right before she tried to divorce Jeff. And Sherri, She knew about the murders all along. Celest, thank you for the info, this was mostly new to me. If you all would like to reach me, please email me at newstateofminddude@yahoo.com I would like to talk with you all. Thank you

Stacey’s son Daniel

By: Danny on January 17, 2008
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I dated Paul in high school. He was my “first” He seemed veery normal to me with the exception of a few “crazy” reactions. I dated him and took him to my Prom. He wore my class ring, but cheated on me all the time. Lots more stories where that came from. He was working at Fox Lumber at the time. We actually broke up and my mom and dad took me out of town for the weekend because he was stalking me. He mother died shortly before, but I do not think this effected him like some say. He had issues from the start. Anyways, the wekend I went away was when he committed his first rape. Luckily the girl escaped. I am not sure why nothing bad ever happened to me, I get the creeps everytime his name comes up. I was a lucky one I guess. I came back from the weekend with my parents and his friend Mark was at my house to tell me Paul was at large and what had happened. I was shocked. He wrote me a few letters from prison at first, but of course i burned them. If it makes you feel better..he got his in jail too. I know first hand he was beatena dnraped there. This is not enough punishemnt for what he has done to those innocent women. He does deserve death. Everytime I pull out my yearbook and see our picture in there from Prom I want to puke. He is a sick SOB and will definately burn in hell for eternity. Again, my condolences and prayers go out to all the victims families. Know that even if justice/revenge is not gotten on earth, he will have to face judgement with God and that is worse!

By: Mar on January 24, 2008
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To all of you wonderful people !!
I know as long as we still talk about Stacey and Keep all of our fond memories She is still Alive and That , Paul may NEVER take.
Stacey loved the outdoors she could not stand if she was ever grownded, she never was one of those kids that just sit in front of the TV. Which was such a awesome attribute, we always found something to go and do every single day, from fishing to swimming in a near by lake to riding bikes everywhere, we would even pick many flowers, many people would catch us taking thiers but we did it anyway and ran and laughed till our stomach hurted,
we never were givin much money from our parents but when we did 7-eleven was our favorate candy store we would get a whole bunch for pennies and nickels, yes it was fun !! I believed staceys favorate were the shoe strings, her and her brothers share them.
I am not sure who Stacey would pick for the SuperBowl but I know she would be Loving the day before.
for those who did not know ….
Please sing a Happy Birthday Song on Sat. February 2nd she would be 38 years old ! I know she will hear us
And Danny,
You will always have my prayers and blessings, forever nomatter what !!!!!!!! a big smooch on the cheek .
Love Susan

By: Susan on January 28, 2008
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I am the sister of Yolanda Gutierrez and aunt of Jessica Muniz
I agree with Susan there is a HUGE flaw in the system that Charlene is allowed to walk around and continue to live her life as thou nothing happened. I to agree I hope some lawyer finds a loop hole and put’s her away as well she did take part in some of the murders and she should be held accountable. If she would have gone to the police my sister and niece would be alive today. Today marks the anniversary of their murders (11 years) and it’s still hurts just the same.

Danny,

I’m sorry that you had to grow up without your mother because of this monster. God Bless you always Danny whenever your feeling lost and confused reach out to god he is always there for you… Take Care of yourself….

Mari,
You must have had Yolie on your mind I see that you wrote your comment on Yolie’s B-day. Hope your doing well..

By: Elizabeth on February 3, 2008
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I’m so sorry Elizabeth. My heart goes out to you.

By: Tina Trivett on February 3, 2008
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After all the years that i have been without my sister Yolanda and my neice Jessica, i have realized that the pain will never cease. Even though our family has realized that they are in a better place now and watching over us, there is no mercy in our hearts for this monstourous person. Throughout the years i have thought about my sister and neice and wondered how it would be if they were still here. I have noticed that i have tried to block this out, but the more i do, the more it consumes me. I have realized that as this consumes me, it tends to drown me in an emotional state of mind. As the years go by i pray with faith in our Lord that this monster will pay for what he has done, not only to our family but to the other families who are also going through the same agony and pain that we have all endured. My heart goes out to all the families, including my own, and i hope that one day we can all find some kind of peace within our soul to move on but never forget the wonderful and gracious moments that our loved ones have once brought into our lives. May God bless us all and give us the strength and courage to be able one day to live with our loses. To my family, I Love You, and we are in this battle together. To the other families, may the Lord bless you and give you strength and faith to move on.

By: Victims Relative on February 3, 2008
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i grew up never knowing my aunt and cousin. i always knew that they past away but was kept away from the details of the murder. after the trial i was extremely hurt,and went through a stage of rage against this monster. I WILL NEVER FORGIVE HIM!!!

By: young pain on February 6, 2008
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To Yolanda and Jessicas Family,
I pray with Pauls Execution it will give you some peace,
I know it is hard to go back to those days when they were still alive and live your every day life.
And those what ifs, and those I wish she can see my children at this play or something else…….
Thats when we have to remind ourselves as believers in God, that He is very Good and has done so many amazing things so I am pretty sure all the girls are seeing everything we ask them to see.
And hear every single prayer,
Paul is a true monster and so is his wife !!!!!
I really do hope something can be done with her, she needs to be accountable for these murders also.
Continue to treasure your wonderful memories which I am positive you have been doing and soon God will give all the family and friends peace,
And I am very sorry for your loss also,
and please share with us some of your happy stories if you can.
God Bless Always,
Susan

By: Susan on February 8, 2008
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Sue,
When is the execution date?

By: celeste on February 11, 2008
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Yeah Sue. Let us know. We have a celebration in order. To see how many lived this scum has ruined is just unspeakable. Goes to show you how serial killers can look nice too.

By: Shauncey on February 11, 2008
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I’ll post here as soon as I find out…

By: Tina Trivett on February 11, 2008
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Has the moratorium on executions been lifted in Illinois? Does anyone know?

By: Tina Trivett on February 12, 2008
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I am not sure all about his Execution date,
sometimes I can picture him rotting to Death in jail.or by someone like Dahlmer.
It really truly disgusts me about this whole case it seems so not right , geez when Natalie died in Aruba they automatically stayed focussed on that kid, and even though he was released more than he should of been they always are listening and watching his every move at least I am pretty sure he is not gonna do anything now that he knows hes being watched, but I do pray he gets his day soon. for Natalies Family and Friends.
What I am trying to say is what if they did the same with Stacey, They never searched his home and they had suspicion about him but I read only six months later he had killed those Bosnia girls, God Bless them.
and so on….
I really think we could of done more Justice for all these wonderful Mothers, Ladies, and a very Sweet Daughter !

another memorie of Stacey.. we use to Roller skate every Friday night at the roller rink-Fire Side- she was amazing on the roller rink she always went super fast backwards, she was so good at it. Her mother would take us and her brothers we had so much fun. her favorate time was when they turned the lights off and only had the disco ball and it was couples only- thats where she had her First Kiss !! she was so very happy !

By: Susan on February 23, 2008
at 7:19 pm

Has the moratorium on executions been lifted in Illinois? Does anyone know?

He may never be executed if it hasn’t been lifted.

By: Tina Trivett on February 24, 2008
at 6:50 am

I found part of this article online…from ‘96. Say’s that Staceys husband Jeff passed a lie detector test.

“One year after Stacey Frobel’s severed legs and hands began turning up in Kenosha County and northern Illinois, authorities said Monday they have a suspect in the gruesome slaying but are not close to making an arrest.

The suspect, a man in his mid-20s who was convicted in the late 1980s in the kidnapping, torture and sexual assault of a suburban Chicago girl, knew Frobel briefly, said Lake County, Ill. Sheriff’s Lt. Chester Iwan.

The suspect spent 51/2 years in prison for repeatedly raping the girl. There were so many human bite marks on the girl’s body that authorities deemed them too numerous to count.

“It’s been long and it’s been frustrating but we have eliminated a number of conceivable suspects,” Iwan said Monday.

“The unfortunate part is that at this particular time we don’t have a prosecutable case. We’re not ready for an arrest of anyone,” Iwan said.

When a German shepherd named Friendly returned home with a severed human leg clenched between its teeth near the Wisconsin-Illinois border in Wadsworth, Ill., in January 1995, authorities did not have an identity to match to the limb.

Then body parts started appearing in several areas within eight miles of each other: parts of two legs found in Lake County, Ill., in January and February, a skull discovered near the legs in March, a hand found by a woman working in her yard in the Kenosha County Town of Bristol in March and a right foot found in April 400 yards away by a neighbor of the woman who found the hand.

Frobel’s fingerprints matched the hands. DNA tests later confirmed the identity of Frobel, who would have celebrated her 26th birthday Sunday.

But by then authorities were at least two months behind in their investigation, Iwan said.

“We started out a little behind on this one,” Iwan said. “I think a lot of progress has been made. Ten years ago, without DNA, we would just have simply body parts in a morgue.”

“It’s not unusual for criminals to try and traverse jurisdictional lines in hopes to confuse and impede investigations. We’ve experienced that for years, being a border county,” Kenosha County Sheriff’s Capt. Louis Vena said Monday.

Frobel was last seen at a friend’s apartment at 12:45 a.m. Jan. 4, 1995. Her husband, Jeff Frobel, an assistant manager of an auto parts shop, reported her missing later that day.

The investigation has been hampered because Stacey Frobel reportedly had numerous affairs and often stayed out all night, authorities said.

“It became a difficult investigation when we went into her lifestyle. We came up with a few individuals to start with and then that list grew and grew and grew,” Iwan said.

Jeff Frobel, who could not be reached for comment Monday, and a boyfriend of Stacey Frobel have both passed lie-detector tests and are not considered suspects, Iwan said.”

By: Tina Trivett on February 27, 2008
at 8:12 am

Well It looks as if in this that the law has deliberately made Stacey seem here as her young life and her private disputes with her husband of only a couple months. and her affairs which I had numerous ones too when I was young- (boy I miss those fun days !)
anyways they had Paul in custody and they did not even search his home , no one else to blame, for their incomparable actions.
Stacey was in no way ever had any kind of Lifestyle which would ever be remotely close to being raped and chopped up!
we grew up back in the 80s in Hoffman estates where the biggest thing in town was homes getting toilet papered, we always trusted everyone in our community, we never grew up with fear.We thought of the police as Officer friendly. We never heard of scary stuff-and we never had to expierience God aweful things growing up, we lived in a friendly town back then when you could walk alone all through the night and never be scared, and leave your home screen door open.
This even though I am happy I grew up in a safe neighborhood it implanted in our heads that the whole world was safe and as I grew older as well, I had to learn the hard way that the rest of the world was not at all like Goveners Square Back in the early 80s.
If this is the same Jeff I knew she went out with the one that wanted to be a model ? nhe was a real jerk to her, I remember, He was always bossing her around alot and back when they were dating she did not seem happy.
Thanks for the info Tina.
Susan

By: Susan on February 27, 2008
at 1:01 pm

It’s Jeff Frobel they are talking about.

I know Stacey did some things when I knew her, that I know she wasn’t proud of….but as you said, she didn’t deserve any of what happened to her.

It’s all sickening.

By: Tina Trivett on February 27, 2008
at 2:54 pm

I know, but I wonder if Jeff Frobel is the same guy she was dating who I did not get along with and I did not know she got married.
And also Paul was the one in custody I remember being told they had Paul (police) after Staceys death,
But let him go.
Susan

By: Susan on February 28, 2008
at 9:05 am

THESE ARE THE MEN ON DEATH ROW AS OF NOW IN ILLINOIS
Illinois’ Death Row

• Rodney Adkins, 44, for the 2003 murder of an Oak Park woman who walked in on him as he burglarized her condo.

• Teodoro Baez, 31, for a 1999 double murder in which the victims were dismembered with a samurai sword after a drug dispute near Chicago.

• Dion Banks, 45, for the 2001 shooting death of a woman in front of her two young sons during a carjacking in the Ford City Mall parking lot.

• Joseph Bannister, 39, for wounding his ex-girlfriend and killing her sister during a 2000 attack in Chicago’s Logan Square neighborhood.

• Ricardo Harris, 43, for the 1999 murder of two Oak Lawn liquor store clerks during an attempted burglary, in which two customers also were injured.

• Laurence Lovejoy, 41, for the rape and murder of his 16-year-old stepdaughter, Erin Justice, in 2004 in Aurora.

• Anthony Mertz, 31, for the 2001 murder of Rolling Meadows native Shannon McNamara, 21, in her off-campus apartment at Eastern Illinois University.

• Brian Nelson, 25, for killing his former girlfriend, her brother, her father and her father’s girlfriend outside Peotone in 2002.

• Daniel Ramsey, 29, for the July 1996 shooting deaths of two girls, ages 16 and 12, and wounding his former girlfriend and three toddlers in Hancock County.

• Paul Runge, 37, for the rapes and murders of a woman and her 10-year-old daughter in their Chicago apartment in 1997.

• Cecil Sutherland, 52, for the 1987 abduction, rape and murder of 10-year-old Amy Schulz, of Kell, Ill., in Jefferson County.

• Curtis Thompson, 65, for the 2002 shooting deaths of three people, including a sheriff’s deputy, in rural Stark County.

• Andrew Urdiales, 43, for the 1996 murder of a 21-year-old Hammond woman in Livingston County.

Source: Daily Herald archives; state prison records

By: Susan on February 28, 2008
at 8:29 pm

Jeff was her husband(2nd)…I don’t know if she dated any other Jeffs up there.

By: Tina Trivett on February 29, 2008
at 6:46 am

I am sorry you have lost loved ones. Goodness be with you.

By: Robert on March 1, 2008
at 1:06 am

Well have not heard anything about Paul lately.
It would be nice to see a video interview on him, see how and what hell in jail is like.
so if anyone gets any info please post.
Susan
God bless to everyone

By: Susan on March 11, 2008
at 2:38 pm

I am sure if Danny told his story to say…..Geraldo, Steve Wilkos, Montel,or even Nancy Grace…ONE of them would do an interview with Paul aka scum bag low life piece of sh*&

By: Celeste on March 13, 2008
at 7:53 am

I just talked to Danny. He has lots going on. Don’t know if he has time to do a talk show…or if he would want to.

I do know if the moratorium on the death penalty isn’t lifted, Paul will be sitting in jail for a long time.

By: Tina Trivett on March 14, 2008
at 6:34 am

Dont think he would have to actually do an interview….This scum bag was a serial killer….I just think if brought to someones attention that works in the media that someone would want to interview this evil monster.

By: celeste on March 14, 2008
at 9:24 am

I agree with you Celeste, I don’t think only Danny would have to speak theres Other women too, and family.
You know Tina I have never met you, which I am sorry, but you seem to say when you talk with the family you will update us and how you talked with Danny and he has alot going on.
It is nice that you seem to know much more than us about Staceys Family,
But our Prayers Of Friends of Stacey, and mourners of all these women , Want the utmost Justice done.
And my thoughts of continued love and support for Danny and his family will always be.
Celeste, Yes There has to be Someone to interview this psycho that was roaming our neighborhood !!!!!! May there not be another one as him !!!!
God Bless
Susan

By: Susan on March 15, 2008
at 2:49 pm

“You know Tina I have never met you, which I am sorry, but you seem to say when you talk with the family you will update us and how you talked with Danny and he has alot going on. It is nice that you seem to know much more than us about Staceys Family”

I don’t quite understand what you mean. All I know, is what I talk to Daniel about, and what I’ve talked to Sue about. We were both friends of Staceys, you & I…you in her younger years & I in her adult years. But the bond we share with her will always be strong. You & I will always have her in common.

Yes, others can talk about the monster too, most definitely. And should. Celeste mentioned Danny telling his story, which is why I gave the info I did. I speak regularly with Daniel…try to make sure he knows that he is loved and special and all of the other things he should hear. He is such a loving, caring young man. Stacey would be so proud of him.

I’d love to see a story done on this. I can’t believe that nothing has been done yet..like a dateline or something.

We all would like justice done, for sure. There are many of us who lost loved ones to this monster. Maybe with all of us pushing the issue, somebody will do a story on it.

Anybody have any ideas? Celeste?

By: Tina Trivett on March 15, 2008
at 6:33 pm

I dont mean to seem pushy once so ever , I just think we all need to not stop or wait for something to be found like when his execution can be, or wait for anything I think our Voice may make a big difference all of us.
through good memories, and our Fight for Paul and His Grueling wife to pay for what they have done.
when you speak to Sue again Tina or if Danny reads this please tell Sue that Erica and I were reunited also and her mother still lives in the same place. I have her on myspace
one-phone-call-to-heaven as one of my friends.
Let us all keep Shouting for Justice and See if someone in the media will listen,
I know you were with Stacey In Florida and that is where Danny was born, I am glad he knows you,
And I cannot wait untill he comes and visits me.
Stacey was very Special and I really do miss her so much, I cannot even tell you , It hurts deeply knowing I wont see her again untill We are both in heaven.
She was very Good even when she was bad, She was still Good she had that special quality, that her bright smile and spirit could make you laugh even if you were mad at her, we had childhood fights but they always ended in laughter.
she was a true friend and my parents adored her, my father who treated her as if she was part of the family took her to the Navy base almost every weekend to eat he wanted her to marry a military guy . it was funny, she was a laugh a minute, and I know her brothers remember most of all her making them laugh.
someone ill hear us soon let us send letters or e-mails to everyone- I want a interview done with this monster also his wife hopefully she will come forth to her part in this !!!! I also want to see a picture of her.

God Bless,
Susan

By: Susan on March 15, 2008
at 8:24 pm

“her bright smile and spirit could make you laugh even if you were mad at her”

lol..yep, that sure was her. I imagine that when we both picture her in our mind, that the same beautiful smile is shining.

I love Celestes idea. Maybe we can make up a list of places to submit emails to. Maybe some of the 20/20 type shows. I’d love to know what the other families/friends of the victims think about this..

By: Tina Trivett on March 15, 2008
at 8:38 pm

Sounds great Tina.
Susan

By: Susan on March 16, 2008
at 6:58 am

Happy Easter Everyone!!!!!
As Jesus has Risen, so have these wonderful ladies in Heaven.
God Bless.
May The Good Lord Lead our Paths .
Susan

By: Susan on March 22, 2008
at 2:46 pm

I was actually friends with paul for a short time in high school. We worked together and we carpooled a couple times. Seemed like a dcent guy. Bit of a bullshitter. but actually slept with a lot of hot girls from our town. He did not seem any different from any of us. I knew him up until a few months later when he raped and kidnapped a girl. I could not believe it. I could see how he put his victims at ease and were surprised. Anyone could have been a victim. You cannot always judge a book by its cover. I am glad that such a demented person is in prison. However i don’t know if the death penalty is right. It is a punishment of the unknown. he may be getting off too easy. It is ashame that we are so civlized that we have not come up with a punishment that would be right for such a person. There should be pain inflicted on him every day of his life for a long time. If there is a hell great. absolutely great, he will get his. until we are sure these is a hell. we should develop a punishment that is hell on earth for such a man for as long aspossible. It has been proven that the death penalty is not a deterent. Torture day after day night after night might be. Do I feel bad that Paul went from a regular kid too what he became yes. Do i feel bad about his warped mind that caused him to commit these crimes. yes. but once he knew he was going to go through with one of his sick fantasies he could have been a man a blew his brains out before he commited such acts. because he didn’t he should feel pain and suffering for as long as possible. I know as a son a husband and as a father no pain inflicted on paul will never be enough.

By: no one on March 27, 2008
at 8:41 pm

To no one …….
that is pretty intense to know some one that can do these hideous things.
until after they happen you look back and see some signs that showed some sorta disturbing behavior.
this is why I think it is extremely important that we get some interviews from Paul and his wife and ask them if there was anything that society could have done to stop them, If they could not contain their own ability.
If somehow we may be able to save even one person, from monsters like this. we have to!!!!
I am still pleading with some interviews done with Paul !!!
Thank you for sharing your story, and I am sorry you had to go to school with this sick person.

Susan

By: Susan on April 2, 2008
at 8:07 am

Hello Danny & Susan. I am a reporter for Newsradio 780/WBBM and would love to talk with you. When Stacey was murdered, I was working for WKRS/WXLC in Waukegan and am very familiar with her story. Please email me at mfiore@wbbm-am.com. Although I’m not Nancy Grace or Geraldo, I do work part-time for Chicago’s all-news leader. But because I’m part-time, I may not respond right away. I have read some of your notes here and am interested in the story you have to tell.

By: Michele on April 7, 2008
at 7:56 pm

Thank you so much for helping us out.

I believe I may have talked with you several years ago. Are you the author of “Who killed Stacey Frobel?” ?

By: Tina Trivett on April 8, 2008
at 5:40 am

Sorry…forgot to mention, Staceys son Daniel is out of town at the moment. I will try & contact him to let him know about the story.

Thanks again!!

By: Tina Trivett on April 8, 2008
at 5:43 am

Hey Tina, Sry I have not called, I have no cell and I won’t be moving till the end of June. I will try to call soon and thank you for your message on myspace! ;p Love ya!

I am open for any questions and learning new info. My Grandma though will not participate in any convo with any reporter. My email is newstateofminddude@yahoo.com

By: Danny on April 9, 2008
at 12:50 am

Read what is up to date and I have alot to say!
First: I would love to tell the story, and I would love to be the one in to take an interview with him just so I can have my hands around that fuckers neck! But besides that I would love to interview and make it clear that this fucker gets what he deserves and that all of his victims and their families gets the prayers that they need.

Jeff Frobel: I have many memories of him!!! All the memories on his Drug and Drinking problems. All the times he used to beat the shit out of my mom and I. And for some new information to some… Jeff is the one that introduced my mom to him! Here is a great question… Isn’t it weird that this all happened while she was trying to divorce Jeff??? Hmmm suspicious!? I have this one big memory of this psycho: I woke up in the middle of the night to jeff Screaming. I creaped up into the living room as I see my mom sitting on the couch crying and jeff standing on the other side of the coffee table screaming at her. She saw me and called me to her, I deeply remember the tight hug she gave me. As he was screaming he picked up and big piece of glass that sat on the table and smashed it on his head. If that doesnt scream psychotic then what does. I have many memories of that asshole. Plus that fucker has my mom’s ashes and I have not seen him sense I was five!!!
Charleen: Yes, Needs to go to jail! The worst part is that she was friends with my mom and Jeff hooked her up with Paul!
My mom: Yeah I’m sure she slept around, but really do you blame her for the jack ass she was married and stuck with (Jeff Frobel). She has done many things I’m sure she regrets but if she had fun doing them at least she got some type of happiness before she passed, But all that I care about is that she was a good mother to me and when ever Jeff came to be me she tried her hardest to stop it!!! If you were in her situation, I’m sure you would be scared to, we don’t know what he would have done if she had left.
If it wasn’t for Jeff my mom would still be alive and I would not be in the situations that I am in today!!!
There is alot of info that has been unsaid and it is time for everyone to share it! Every one that was involved in my moms and all of the other victims murders need to get their share of punishment!!!

God please bless my mom, paul runge’s victims and the victims families souls for they need all the blessing they can get!

By: Danny on April 9, 2008
at 1:40 am

Oh and I am extremely sry but I need to add the blessings for all of the friends and all the people that have been here for out pain! Thank you!!!

By: Danny on April 9, 2008
at 1:42 am

(((hugs))) Daniel. I love you.

I sent my new #…call when you can.

By: Tina Trivett on April 9, 2008
at 5:12 am

Danny,
I am so very sorry the pain you have had to endure in your young life.
it sounds as if Jeff does have alot of guilt for the life he had with your Mom and the things you remember.
You were probably the best thing she had at the time of her death,
But unfortunately Jeff Frobel is not the one behind bars and his acts will have to be dealt with alone with God.
But we can focus on trying to get Paul to open up and tell us more, so we may have alot of unanswered questions answered.
And somehow get into his head and try to make a difference
to any future want-to-be sick, serial killers and not let this happen again !!
Your mom and I were Best Friends since 4th grade, she was a wonderful person all the way through. she did not have a mean spirit in her ! she had alot of love Danny. I mean alot of good pure love. which is hard to find in most people.
Keep her tight Hug around you everyday,
I hope you may come out and visit me ! I am in Lake Geneva. or I can come see you and your Grandma, with your invite of course.
Be strong Danny you have wonderful genes. lets get this sicko interviewed so we may get some more closier,
Love you,
Susan

By: Susan on April 9, 2008
at 6:56 am

Michele, thank you for all that you are doing. Thank you for reading and hearing our plea. It is important work you are doing. Thank you again.

Susan…I think that we are doing Stacey a great service by keeping her name alive. By letting people know she was not just a ‘victim’…but a REAL person. That all of the women who suffered at the hands of this monster, were REAL people.

Danny, so good to hear from you. I sent you another message. Miss talking to you. Call when you can. Love you!

By: Tina Trivett on April 9, 2008
at 7:24 am

Thank you all!

Susan, yes I think it would be nice to meet. I have to ask my grandma if she is up for it but I’m sure it would be no problem.

Tina, well said and yes I got your message and I totally agree!!! I do need to talk to you on the phone cause I have some questions but I just need to get to a phone that I can use.

I just got a job and need to pay some bills for my APT, car and to get a cell phone once again! Love you all and my blessing to all of you once again!

By: Danny McDonald on April 9, 2008
at 11:04 pm

Yes please do! I would love to see all of you !!
very excited to finally meet you in person Danny !!!
Maybe Jeff still has your moms ashes and we could see if now he could give them to you ?
I do not see why he wouldn’t, I always wondered where they were, I was not sure if they were buried somewhere I could visit.
God Bless All These Wonderful Families.
Love Susan

By: Susan on April 10, 2008
at 5:20 am

Several states have lifted the moratorium on the death penalty.

Illinois is not one of them.

…and so we wait.

By: Tina Trivett on April 19, 2008
at 6:18 am

Heading over To Stacey and my hometown in May a fellow classmate is coming from Cali very excited ., A group of Staceys old friends will be there. Plan on going to places we would go everyday from grade school to our Teen age years wish there was a way I could post up pictures of somethings like her home growing up. and favorite spots.
very excited !!
God Bless Everyone,
BTW~ ” bonnie is there a way we could post Pics ” ?
Susan

By: Susan on April 25, 2008
at 8:56 am

Daniel…just wanted to let you know I’ll be talking to you from now on the usual way. It really bothers me to come to this page and see that Bastards smiling face at the top every time.

Love ya…

By: Tina Trivett on May 1, 2008
at 8:40 am

I wanted to let Staceys friends know…With Daniels permission, I have started a myspace page in memoriam. A place we can all leave messages.

http://www.myspace.com/staceyfrobel

By: Tina Trivett on May 7, 2008
at 5:28 am

Well I went to our hometown in Hoffman Estates, The first place I went to was Garabaldi’s, That was Stac and I favoratate place to hang out I was pleasantly surprised it was still there even though it has changed Dramatically. It went Retro on us. no more wood tables either but Gary the old Owner that probably kicked us out a thousand times still owned it .( I have money now so I was safe, LOL)
well I think the tears started to come into rolled dime sized drops when I walked around the mall remembering us laughing at the guys making pizza through the clear windows, as if were yesterday, we would tease them sticking our tounges out and wiggling our fingers on our ears everyday, it became a tradition for us every night when we walked up there-one reason we always did it because stacey had the cutest crush on one of the much older pizza guys which I would gag to all the time, Because This was a reason we could never get away from the pizza makers, That was my dear older brother behind the Glass, he was much older but young Stacey had a funny crush on him .
boy would she be amazed at him now with his Bachelors and Masters in Computer Science since the late 80s.
Well my dear friend Erica who had lived behind Stacey-is working on sending me pictures of our schools and playgrounds I was unable to make those places.
The whole Trip though reminded me of how very Innocent Stacey was, And How I wish we could sit and bring up our past together.

Someone PLEASE!!!!!!!!! Interview this Psycho for Me and others !!!
So this Will Never Happen Again !!!
I want to Hear from PAUL RUNGE HIMSELF !!!
Why…
What could of stopped you?….
Where exactly did you leave her Heart ?…
also was his Wife involved as much that she should be behind bars too.?
And Do You Really Know That Stacey Was a Beautiful Person Inside and Out ?
And same Questions with other Vicims as well.

I love You Stacey.
Your friend Always
Susan Hugs XoXoXoXo

By: Susan on May 13, 2008
at 6:40 pm

I was friends with Stacey in Florida. Tina, you may remember me from at Joeys place or Lumar. I used to see the two of you after work at Dennys all the time too. Do you remember Tad and his brother? We were talking about you & Stacey the other day. You guys were like 2 peas in a pod. Where one was, the other would be there. Her death must have affected you deeply. I am so sorry. I know what good friends you two were. People used to think you were sisters. Remember that? Boy we sure had some fun back then, didn’t we?

I miss her so much also. This demon Paul Runge has left some huge scars on our hearts. There are alot of other people here who miss her too. I saw your my space page you made up for her. What a good idea. I might have some pictures of the both of you to add to it. Hope to hear from you soon. God bless all of the families.

By: Jill on May 20, 2008
at 12:21 pm

I’d like to start off by passing on my deepest heartfelt condolences to the families and friends who have lost loved ones based on the actions of Paul Runge. It boggles the mind when I try to understand how human beings can cause each other so much pain and suffering. Is it the type of evil the Bible warns about or is it some organic wire in the brain that randomly comes undone at birth? I wish I knew the answer to that question because without one, people like Paul Runge will always be hunting amongst us, leaving a trail of death in their wake.

The reason I’m adding to this blog is to help answer some of the many questions you all seem to have in common. These answers have been researched and checked with various reliable sources. Everything is current up to the date of posting.

Illinois’ previous Governor, George Ryan, commuted the death sentences of over a hundred and fifty inmates. They are all serving life sentences without parole. A number of these inmates were given death sentences for rape murders. Some of these cases were against children and the elderly. These inmates didn’t want to leave death row to be integrated into the general population. Crimes against children and the elderly aren’t looked upon favorably. Life on death row means a single cell, meals served in the cell and total separation from the general population. If these inmates want to eat while in general pop, they must go to the chow hall. Cell life is also much different since it would be shared with another inmate, not of their choosing. The cells are very small. If given a choice, many general pop inmates would choose the lifestyle of death row inmates, minus the possible ending.

If Mr. Runge had his death sentence commuted, he’d be a lot worse off than present and probably die way before any possible execution date ever rolled around. Fear would be a daily ingredient of his life. It chagrins me to know he’s existing in a lifestyle better than 60% of the prison population. Yes, the moratorium is still in effect in Illinois and may be for some time to come. At present it’s not really an issue since death row inmates have the appeal system to work through, if they so choose. Runge’s is only in the beginning stages of this process. If the moratorium was lifted, it wouldn’t effect any of the fifteen inmates on death row.

Illinois doesn’t use the electric chair and hasn’t for some time. The current method of execution is lethal injection. There’s a movement to have this method stopped and even a few cases in the United States Supreme Court. The claim is that lethal injection is a form of cruel and unusual punishment. I’m not sure how that can be determined when the only people who could testify to that, are dead?

On the subject of Mr. Runge’s ex-wife Charlene (Cheri), she was given full immunity from prosecution in return for her testimony against Mr. Runge in the deaths of Stacy Frobel and the two Bosnian sisters. The deal seems set in stone. It came out in Mr. Runge’s last trial that Charlene reneged on one of the conditions of her agreement. The state chose to ignore that. Amazing isn’t it? I’ve often wondered what the need is for Charlene’s testimony? Mr. Runge gave confessions in the two said cases. He’s not saying he didn’t commit these horrible crimes, he’s saying he’s insane. How can Charlene help? She sounds like the one who was insane. It will be interesting to hear what she has to say.

Charlene moved out of state in the late 90’s. She’s changed her name and severed most of her past ties. Charlene got a free pass courtesy of the F.B.I., Dupage County State’s Attorney and Cook County State’s Attorney. These people have made it a habit to make deals with the Devil. If this upsets you as it does myself, you need to contact local media outlets along with the larger ones. With enough pressure it might be possible to stop this practice or at least have these deal makers removed from office. Here’s an interesting fact, Robert Milan who took Mr. Runge’s confession and was instrumental in Charlene’s immunity deal, is now running for Cook County State’s Attorney. If he’s elected, you can expect more of the same. Mr. Runge was never accused or charged with any murders before that of Stacy Frobel. According to all sources, that would be his first known murder. He was questioned in the Frobel murder and became a prime suspect but only after many others, he was never detained or charged with the murder until June of ‘01. Between ‘95 and ‘97, Runge’s voluntarily gave DNA samples, dental impressions and hair and blood all requested by the F.B.I. Charlene did the same. The results didn’t help further the investigation.

The trial in the death of Stacy Frobel will probably be held in the fall of this year. The state is seeking the death penalty as in the prosecution of the first case. In my opinion the tax payers of Illinois would better be served if Mr. Runge accepted a life sentence. A trial along with the previous prosecution procedures is a waste of money. Mr. Runge’s doesn’t deserve the tax payers hard earned money. The whole thing must have already cost over a million dollars. This guy needs the justice general population would offer.

The last thing I have concerns the possibility of Mr. Runge doing any interviews. He’s been approached by a number of media sources including hourly news programs. He’s declined them all based on the advice of his attorneys. That’s probably for the best. Those shows seem to generate a lot of mail for the showcased individual.

In closing, I hope I was able to answer some of your questions. If you have more, feel free to address them on this site to Aperson07.

By: Aperson07 on May 23, 2008
at 12:54 pm

Thankyou, Aperson07-
atleast I know now someone is listening. forgive me to be not so compassionate about any one that is even trying to run for office that was around when this case was undergo.
I may not be the smartest blond on the block but every Man or Woman that was trying to be the BC in the cop shop when Stacey was brutelly murdered , her car sitting there, everyone said who she was with that night-I don’t care how many other cards were thrown in thier frigin face- thier Job was to INVESTIGATE- Hello Mc fly,
what was it that they thought Stacey was going to be the only one?
and just because she was last seen in a bar , maybe she deserved it?
Sorry , pretty much every one of you and your Mother have been there, do you believe you should be Raped and killed too ?
I am sorry if I will sound out even more now but here you go.
Any frigin badge holdin’SOB that can seriously let that skanky no good Bitch walk the streets among many other could be victims if she meets the right guy for her schemes should be throughly investigated for his STATE OF MIND ! not just because he is part of the state.
And to Mr. Runges Lawyer, Good Luck..Remember what he really is capable of doing!!! that stuff can not go away.
And this could have been Your Best Friend!!
Do Right
Susan

By: Susan on May 24, 2008
at 12:11 am

Aperson07, is SKdocuments (linked to in your post) your business? http://www.skdocuments.com/
Who’s profiting from these horrible crimes?

I appreciate all of the info you have given here re: Runges case. In my years talking to people about this case, I have heard lots of crazy stuff regarding cook & dupage cty workers. I would put nothing past them.

I plan to try and attend some of the trial. I do not think a 2nd trial is a waste of money. I believe that most of us want him to be held accountable for what he did to ‘each’ victim.

Jill! Yes, of course I remember you! So glad your doing well. Yes we did have good times down there.

By: Tina Trivett on May 24, 2008
at 8:18 am

Is there any recent photos of Paul that could atleast be obtained ?
And I do not know if all of you are on the same page as me but I strongly Disagree with APerson07 with Paul going into General Population-
ABSOLUTLY NOT !!
so he can forget about what he has done, so he can enjoy so many other things… I would like to see the printout of the differences between Death Row and General Population, I would say The magnitude Of Pauls Crime (and I say that lightly) only fits in a Death Row Cell !
or solitary…
And Whatever George Ryan did was Unbelievable to say the least.
Common sense is the only Punishment for Paul. Who has that ?
US THE PEOPLE DO——–AND US THE FRIENDS AND FAMILY THAT CAN STILL SPEAK FOR THOSE WHO CANNOT !!!

If it Cost me a million dollars for that Syringe!
Without a blink of a eye-I would buy it !
Some Peace 4 Everyone.

Please comment anyone,
God Bless
Susan

By: Susan on May 26, 2008
at 7:28 am

Susan,

I have uploaded the newest mug shot of him while in prison. However, it is almost the same as the other one. I was also able to find pictures of 2 victims, Yolanda and Jessica. If anyone has pictures of the others to post, I would love that!

By: mylifeofcrime on May 26, 2008
at 8:32 am

Here’s an older one of paul.

http://upload.skcentral.com/images/a1uv3u8xs7igrwmbggz.jpg

By: Joe on May 26, 2008
at 11:11 am

For some reason, my post was deleted….I’d love to know why.

note from blog owner:

Tina,
For some reason your other comment went into moderation and I missed it earlier. I have approved it now so it is now posted.

By: Tina on May 27, 2008
at 1:29 pm

http://gallery.skcentral.com/displayimage.php?album=170&pos=8
I found a couple more pictures too !! of Paul. they look almost the same though, included is pic of Stacey.

By: Susan on May 27, 2008
at 3:59 pm

Thanks Tina for pouinting out who Aperson07 also Joe…I really hope people are not here to cash in on this , by lees from Paul ext…
Stacey never took Life for granted, She loved everybody-sadly !!! I realy want People to know the person i grew up with and know she was not a body part or a for sale sign !!
she was beautiful !!!!and she made everyone Laugh. I remember Her Mother laughing at our little skits we would put on along with her little brothers ofcourse, I did not know how it felt to have such a big part of your soul ripped away until this man THAT KNEW FOR SURE WHAT HE WAS DOING !!!! took Stacey, And I relized I was truly never going to see the friend that I became closer to, than my own family as we grew. And I never thought I would have to really , Really try to Hold back Tears`when Memories would clog my mind of our Laughter and Tears together .
Always knowing I would find her, and we will Grow with telling all our Children the fun stuff we did, and the family ge togethers, where her brothers would let out he truths when we bribed them with Candy not to tell.
Oh Wait !!!!!!!!! Thats right I can Never Do hat Because Paul Fredrick Runge took Stacey from us !!!
along with other familys..
God Bless,
Susan

By: Susan on May 27, 2008
at 4:43 pm

Thank you for fixing my post.

Looking at little Jessicas picture up top there…wow. What a beautiful little girl she was. Taken from life before she had a chance to really live it. It is truly heartbreaking what her and her mother endured.

So many beautiful people that he took away.

By: Tina on May 27, 2008
at 7:37 pm

Tina,

I don’t know who Aperson07 is, but the skdocuments website is mine.

By: Joe on May 31, 2008
at 2:02 pm

didnt Paul escape too once ?
whatever happen to that cop ?
if he could plan that out he was not Crazy !!!!!!
can anyoe locate info on that ?
just curious!!!!

By: Susan on June 5, 2008
at 6:09 am

There’s a little bit about his escape attempt here:

http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive/Alt/alt.true-crime/2006-02/msg00027.html

By: Tina on June 5, 2008
at 1:33 pm

thanks Tina Who has more ???????

By: Susan on June 5, 2008
at 7:54 pm

What exactly are you wanting to know about his escape attempt?

By: Joe on June 9, 2008
at 4:25 pm

how did he figure out to do that. and how far did he get ?

By: Susan on June 10, 2008
at 5:45 pm

From what I understood, he had help from a female guard. I’m pretty sure she got in trouble too.

By: Joe on June 11, 2008
at 5:52 am

did she talk him into it, or was it him who talked her ito it.
where is she now? did she get jail time ?

By: Susan on June 11, 2008
at 7:34 am

There is a Statis Hearing for Paul in Dupage County in the beginning of July- I am going to get more info about it I hope to see you all there !!!!!!!!!!

By: Susan on June 23, 2008
at 12:35 pm

MORE OF PAULS ESCAPE ATTEMPT…HE KNOWS WHAT HE IS DOING !!!!!!!!
The armed robbery conviction — legally unprecedented in Illinois — was based on RUNGE escaping while wearing clothes owned by the state.
RUNGE and another convicted sex offender used Mace to overpower two guards and escape from an Illinois Department of Human Services van taking them to court dates in Chicago. Both men were captured minutes later in Naperville.
After RUNGE’s 2002 conviction, Will County State’s Attorney Jeff Tomczak acknowledged the tactic of charging RUNGE with armed robbery for escaping with the clothes on his back was “fairly creative.”
“We knew all along that the state’s attorney’s theory in charging this case was creative,” spokesman Brian McDaniel said. “Considering the type of defendant we were dealing with, that creativity was required.” Several convictions secured against RUNGE in Will County remain in effect. The 34-year-old RUNGE pleaded guilty to escape and also was convicted of aggravated battery. It’s unclear how much time he’ll have to serve for those convictions

By: Susan on June 23, 2008
at 12:43 pm

I want to know what changes Cook County made since Staceys Death !
I know they are sorry and wish they did more. But what now has changed in the investigation process.
That will make me feel as others more confortable that this will never happen again’
And I would like Staceys name to be reminded to all some how !!!
She was his first victim and she as like the others was still suppose to be Alive .
Susan –Staceys friend till the End.

By: Susan on June 24, 2008
at 11:04 am

Joe, so you’ve made ‘friends’ with Runge…? Looks like Paul is enjoying the fame. Appears to be a yearbook photo. Guess his fat ass is ‘relishing his youth’. How come he’s not signing photos of himself from now?

http://gallery.skcentral.com/displayimage.php?album=170&pos=5

Would you mind sending him a message from me when you speak to him next? Tell him I said he can rot in Hell..

By: Tina on July 2, 2008
at 9:19 am

DITTO !!!! DITTTO !!!!! DITTO !!!! To Paul !!!!

By: Susan on July 2, 2008
at 10:04 am

Stacey you had so much to live for,
You were a Mother, A daughter, a only sister, A perfect friend,
This was not suppose to be the end.
You would laugh hysterically at the silliest stuff,
your smiles would spread through even the faces of the Tough.
you taught me how to swim, when I thought it was grim.
we talked on the phone, even when we spent the day together and it was all was all done.
You wanted to save your money to buy your mom a big Owl for the yard, boy , that was marred.
I remember you listening to Lional Ritchie wishing you will fall in love one day, like a princess and be swept away.
I know that could of been Today.
I remember Brad hiding under the stairs, you pretending you couldn’t see him, it was not at all dim.
then he would grab your feet, and you would chase him and tickle him till he stayed in his seat !
Bryan would follow you everywhere, or was it me, that sweet little brother dear.
you were so loved !! and Now your in a castle in the sky and You will never be Shoved !!!!!!
here we will try to get you justice, there is alot of Earth Angels in the courts !! They will not forget you By all the reports.
Let us let Paul Die, as he was already to do so.without a Blink of a Eye.
he has done his work here and implanted much Fear !!!
Stacey, Goodbye my friend -till the End .

By: Susan on July 2, 2008
at 12:58 pm

IMG]http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z26/sunshinemom37/stacey-1.png[/IMG]

By: Susan on July 3, 2008
at 6:21 am

http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z26/sunshinemom37/stacey-1.png

By: Susan on July 3, 2008
at 6:22 am

http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z26/sunshinemom37/spread01.jpg

By: Susan on July 3, 2008
at 6:24 am

I am a friend of killed sisters.
Their parens are still crying, every single day they wake up and cry.
I wish that evil bitch Charlene painful and slow death. And oh dear Charlene if our paths ever cross, what Paul did to them is nothing compared to what’s going to happen to you.

Your country is a joke. Paul is still alive and the bitch is walking around free and my beautiful beatiful friends are dead

By: Adriana on July 9, 2008
at 5:22 pm

Adriana,
Sorry for the loss of your friends and I agree with you in regards to Paul and Charlene however, your nasty comment about MY country is uncalled for….I dont know what country you are from but Paul needs to be charged on ALL murders before this is over. Paul and Charlene will both have to answer to GOD for their actions and it is MY country that has that SOB off the streets. Please, if you continue to post, keep it about the victims and dont judge my country, by you doing so you are insulting me and all my other fellow americans.
Thank you.

By: celeste on July 9, 2008
at 8:14 pm

Adriana I am so very sorry about your friends I can imagine it was those two beautiful girls from Bosnia, I am sorry. It hurts..I can relate.
We are all on the same page with the Anger against Paul and Charlene.
nomatter where this occurred it was gruesome and should of never happened ! It is not our Country it was two very bad people who did this,
Our Country is filled with alot of wonderful people and the sisters should have had the opportunity to enjoy the many Great things here-I know I would of welcomed them into my life with open arms and a big heart. As would of so many other fellow Americans.
I am truly sorry for the loss you had. Lets stick together and make sure Paul gets his execution which he deserves quickly.
and I will be right beside you that day you run into Charlene O.K.
God Bless,
Susan

By: Susan on July 10, 2008
at 5:35 am

to Dzeneta and Amela ’s parents,
I agree your Daughters case needs to come to trial also. !!!!
I wish I could give you both a huge Hug !!!
you had two very beautiful daughters I remember seeing their faces on the front cover of one of the papers.
Please don’t hate all of us for what Paul did. I am beside you with so much compassion- how I know the girls would of had a wonderful life here, they really would of.
their spirits will always be Alive and so will their memory Forever !!!
my tears are with you…. sending you alot of Love !!!!!
Blessings from above.

By: Susan on July 10, 2008
at 6:25 am

Adriana…you are correct. The legal system in this country IS a joke. I completely see what your talking about. Paul should have been killed long ago. If he had been charged in another country, he would have been executed years ago. Its been over 13 years, and he is allowed to communicate with the outside world. It appears that he is eating well also from his photos.

Although his death will not bring our loved ones back…it will be justified. There is no reason to keep him alive any longer. I was really hoping that someone on the ‘inside’ would do the job for us. I am so very sorry about your friends….we all grieve together. ((hugs))

By: Tina on July 10, 2008
at 7:41 am

Heres The address Of the life snatcher
Paul Runge N84715
Pontiac Correctional Center
700 West Lincoln Street
P.O. Box 99
Pontiac, Il 61764

By: Susan on August 4, 2008
at 8:15 am

REMINDER…….On June 14, 2001, Paul Frederick Runge, 31, was charged in Chicago with murdering and sexually assaulting six women and a 10-year-old girl in a string of sex attacks in Cook County and DuPage County between 1995 and 1997. The suspect, Paul Frederick Runge, has been behind bars since 1997, when he was arrested for a parole violation. Police said Runge has confessed to all seven killings and was linked to two of the crimes through DNA.

The victims were bludgeoned to death or strangled — in most cases after he went to homes that had posted for-sale signs for various things, police said. Other victims were women who had responded to his help-wanted ads for someone to clean his home or merely acquaintances. “Paul Runge is our worst nightmare,” Cook County State’s Attorney Richard Devine. “He conned his way into women’s homes or duped them into trusting him. He then raped and murdered them.” Runge had been paroled in 1994 for the kidnapping and sexual assault of a 14-year-old girl in 1987.

Runge is accused in the January 1995 killing of Stacey Frobel, 25, whose body was found in southern Wisconsin and Illinois. Frobel, the mother of a 6-year-old boy, was a friend of Runge’s former wife. Six months later, Runge allegedly killed the two Hanover Park women, sisters Dzeneta and Ameal Pasanbegovic, 22 and 20, respectively. Both were recent immigrants from Bosnia who Runge allegedly lured to his home with the promise of house cleaning jobs. After allegedly killing them, Runge dismembered them in a bathtub and dumped their remains in trash bins. Runge also is accused of the 1997 deaths of Dorota Dziubak, 30, who he killed after she advertised her Northwest Side house for sale; Yolanda Gutierrez, 35, and her 10-year-old daughter; and Kazimiera Paruch, 43, of Chicago, were killed after they advertised their condominium for sale.

On August 9 Paul Runge pleaded not guilty to sexually assaulting and killing four women and a 10-year-old girl in Cook County. Runge previously pleaded not guilty in DuPage County to murder charges in the deaths of two Hanover Park sisters. Prosecutors said that Runge, 31, confessed to the slayings.
__________________

By: Susan on August 4, 2008
at 8:19 am

Heres another myspace for a dear friend …. Stacey.http://www.myspace.com/staceyann1995

By: Susan on August 19, 2008
at 7:11 am

…and there is also the first myspace made for her

http://www.myspace.com/staceyfrobel

By: Tina on September 7, 2008
at 7:02 am

A first my space? What is this a competition Tina?

By: Celeste on September 8, 2008
at 9:02 am

The original myspace made even though it should not make a difference was made in dedication to Stacey in 2006..
http://www.myspace.com/one_phone_call

then it grew into other beautiful things but is still growing strong !!! And I reunited with some really great friends.
Then I Susan wanted to make my friend that I spent 3rd through 8th grade with another one !
I then decided to make another one for her just with her picture on it ! I miss her so much !
http://www.myspace.com/staceyann1995

I hope this one grows as much as her first one did back in 2006.
Thankyou Susan
To Tina-BTW~ I did not ask permission from her family to make these but I never asked thier permission to be her friend growing up either . since you so strongly believe that that matters.

By: Susan on September 8, 2008
at 9:05 am

I am glad there are myspace pages dedicated to her…Its a nice tribute to a wonderful girl!! Thanks for keeping her memory alive!

By: Celeste on September 8, 2008
at 10:59 am

No, not a contest. Just wanted to make sure both links are up..

By: Tina on September 8, 2008
at 10:28 am

Thanks Celeste…nice talking with ya.

By: Tina on September 8, 2008
at 1:08 pm

Has anyone heard any latest news about Paul ?

By: Susan on September 22, 2008
at 3:26 pm

I went to school with Dorota Dziubak for a very short time and the news about her death was very disturbing to me.
I never really found out exactly what has happened until recently due to my own family tragedy. Dorota was recently on my mind when I woke up one morning and decided to write a story. Somehow my thoughts were stirred towards this event and I started looking things up.
Im glad you guys have this site and I am sorry for everyones’ losses.

By: Aggie on September 29, 2008
at 4:24 pm

As much as I’d like to agree with all the negative comments relating to Paul R., I must speak against some false statements made by “Mar” dated January 24, 08. I’ve had to do some checking and it seems “Mar” (a.k.a. Martha P. in ‘86-’87) has her facts wrong. During that time and up until the mid 90’s, I knew them both very well. I visited Paul in jail and prison and even one time with martha. In all fairness to Martha, Paul did treat their relationship bad. He cheated on her all the time and showed me and others a porno movie they made together. He also set me up with her best friend just so he could cheat with her. There’s plenty of reasons for Martha and I to trash him but the truth should stand alone as enough. With that said, Paul never stalked Martha. He dumped her for a girl named Stephanie P. Stephanie P. got jealous because martha continued toc all Paul. ONE night about a week after the break up, Stephanie, Paul and myself went to Martha’s house because Stephanie wanted to kick her ass. That caused a scene and scared Martha. It was a one time event. In the weeks that followed Paul would drive by Martha’s house but not to stalk her. He was going to her best friends house to sleep with her. Chris T. lived on the same street just further down the block. Yep, he was cheating on Stephanie. The guy had like 5 or 6 girlfriends and wasn’t stalking any. Martha found this all out later and felt quite jilted since he was her first and consumed her senior year in high school. She’s got every right to feel sick. I myself feel sick because I knew he was a pervert and went along with it. I even let him date my cousin. No surprise, that ended bad. Anyway, about Paul’s prison time between ‘88 and ‘94, it will probably chagrin most of you to know that he wasn’t treated harshly at all. In 1988 Paul was 18. It was his first time in jail and in prison. He was sentenced to 14 years for rape, kidnapping, and armed violence. In Illinois you serve half of that plus you can receive good conduct credits. Paul only served 6 years and 9 months. Only 5 years and 5 months was done in prison. That low sentence made him eligible for amedium and later minimum security facilities. The guy is a natural manipulator and chameleon. He fit right in to that relaxed lifestyle. There are no prison records of any violence done by him or to him. Basically he was a model inmate as far as records go. He was popular with the inmates because he could get things done. He had good jobs and was even vice president of the facility chapter of the junior chamber of commerce. They controlled the non-commissary items like pizza, ice cream, and other luxury food items. He had the biggest porn collection I’ve ever heard of and rented it out. The go to guys like him are protected in prison. He didn’t walk in the door adn say he was guilty of rape. He did what any smart person would do and said he was convicted of an inmate respectable crime. Martha couldn’t be farther from the truth in her statement that he got his injail. Her supposed first hand knowledge f him getting beaten and raped is wishful thinking. Hell, he’d have used that as part of his defense for killing if that were true. Fact is, he had a multitude of female visitors throughout that whole sentence. He may be a monster but he never looked like one. Court records even have some girls admitting to having sex with him on visits and picnics. In October of 2000 he had a female guard break him out of the facility he was in. This guy isn’t victim material. He kept very fit and has had a prison life of country clubs with golf, tennis, fishing, weight rooms, pool tables, and even roller skating. The places he was at resembled college campus life, not the prison stuff on tv. That whole maximum security thing never crossed his path. 90% of the prison in the US are called ‘Correctional centers or facilities’. They look nothing like the scary hell Hollywood shocks us with. From his own mouth he told his with that he’d rather be locked up like in the past than live life with her. Now he sits on death row protected from the true harm maximum security general population breeds. People who wish the worst for him shouldn’t be happy with a death sentence. A person in the know would see the true hell of a life sentence. That’s justice. Nowhere to hide. We all die , that’s a fact. We don’t all live a life of fear.

By: In The Know on November 10, 2008
at 11:17 am

In the know–
I have led a life of fear since Paul the sicko took Stacey, Every man that even remotlely looks like him brings chills up my spine,
I dont know anything about Martha or any of Pauls relations all I know is that this one person with no definition of authority, Done the most horrible thing to these women, and Child, besides what has been done to thier families.
and what really provokes me is how he can even think about sex, if you say these jail picnics are true.
before he Dies I hope they Cut his Penis off !!!!!! with no novicane, or pain killers.
Let him stay waiting to die-knowing what a horrible thing he has done .
HIS CHANCES HAVE BEEN UP FOR YEARS !!! one Stacey then two….EXT.. let us give them Peace from this spineless, woman hating, scum of the earth !!!!!
God Bless those who Love the Victims XOXOXO
All the Way To Heaven, Amen

By: Susan on November 22, 2008
at 10:13 am

Ok, there is alot going on this page now… No contest is needed here, all we need to know is that were here for one and another… I know the truth on a few of you people!!! And I see some sick things and why Stacey stopped being friends… for instance, Drugs around your kids…. yeah you know who you are… I know everyone makes mistakes but no one is perfect… this is more of a site for the family and friends not the ones who want fame…. like for another instance… someone raising a charity fun for Stacey and Keeping all of the money… My grandma and I know the truth and will respect the people who actually have a true heart… Please keep this real!!! I’m sure all of the other victims and the families would like the same!!! I’m sorry for being harsh but this shit is not right!!! I’m sure Stacey… watching over us would like to see better…

And for all the other victims families I know that your wishing for Pauls Time for I am too… He put a hole in all of us.. I wish the best…

And thank you to all of you for your voice…

By: Danny on December 4, 2008
at 6:08 pm

That makes me very sad if any one had a charity fund and koing throughept the money, THAT IS SICK !!! I wanted so badly to help you but I couldnt at the time, I could never even imagine taking something that belongs to you.
I Pray That You get your future help that you deserve such as college ext… Someone has to be able to do that for you !!!!!!!
I am in South Carolina right now visiting my parents , My Father shocked me with how much he missed your Mom this morning and then we remonised about the things we did …I loved that moment with my Dad, it was like Stacey was still here.
Well Danny Stay strong And I promice One thing this friend Is True !!!! No Contest ! just Love XOXOXO

By: Susan on December 9, 2008
at 2:58 pm

Hi Danny. I got your new number and will call soon. I’ve been out of town for 2 weeks, just got back in. Wow, that’s incredible someone raised money and kept it. That really makes me mad. Tell your Grandma I said hi. Brian and Brad too. Love you!!

By: Tina on December 16, 2008
at 11:34 am

Good news.

Divided court upholds Runge death sentence

May 22, 2009

BY WILLIAM LEE, Staff writer
A divided Illinois Supreme Court on Thursday upheld the death sentence of a former Oak Forest man who was convicted of killing a mother and daughter, but three justices supported his request for a new trial.

In a 4-to-3 vote, the high court affirmed the sentence of confessed serial killer Paul Runge, who was convicted of the 1997 rape and murders of Yolanda Gutierrez, 35, and her 10-year-old daughter Jessica Muniz in their apartment on Chicago’s Northwest Side.

Authorities believe Runge is responsible for five other sexually motivated murders in the Chicago area from January 1995 to March 1997.

The Supreme Court majority, led by Justice Lloyd Karmeier, rejected Runge’s numerous appeals, chief among them the claim that a biased juror tainted the trial, thus leading to his death sentence in 2006. The justices rejected this claim because the male juror was later excused during the sentencing phase of the trial.

A female juror complained that the male juror, a drywall contractor, showed “inappropriate” conduct during the trial, including once cheering prosecutors when they made a strong argument against Runge.

But three justices dissented, stating that the trial judge should have done more questioning of jurors to make sure they hadn’t been influenced by the dismissed juror and that a new trial should be granted.

“I recognize that the crimes at issue here, described in lengthy detail by the majority, were horrific,” Justice Anne Burke wrote in her dissenting opinion. “But it is precisely these types of cases that test our commitment to the principle of law. We must not allow ourselves to be swayed by emotion.”

Runge, now 39, sits on Death Row at the Pontiac Correctional Center.

The court’s 71-page opinion gives explicit accounts of the slayings of Gutierrez and her daughter in their studio apartment, where Runge bound, raped and viciously stabbed both of them before setting fire to the apartment.

The opinion also recounted all of Runge’s other alleged crimes, including five slayings between 1995 and 1997 and the 1987 rape of a 14-year-old girl in his former Oak Forest home when he was 17.

The court also rejected Runge’s argument that his death sentence amounted to cruel and unusual punishment.

http://www.southtownstar.com/news/1586421,052209rungeruling.article

By: Tina T. on May 28, 2009
at 4:52 am

I am another sister of Yolie and Jesse. When he took their lives, he took my mind. I lost my mind for 10 years. I tried to committ sucide, just to be with them. This is my first time I have talked about it on this blog. My deepest condelonces to all the other families that had to suffer. I have 2 children, that are still dealing with their loss. My kids were very close to Jesse. Jesse would have been 23 years old. I know leave up to God. I not going to let this monster steal anymore of my joy. It still hurts deeply, but wishing death upon him is not going to bring my sister and neice back. May God have mercy on his soul, thats if he has one.

By: Carmen on June 18, 2009
at 3:52 pm

I grew up in Oak Forest. I never met Runge but I knew others who did, including my own sister. In high school he was trying to kidnap and tie up girls. Someone should have intervened earlier.

By: Joe Shepherd on June 20, 2009
at 7:44 pm

Danny , like you said you were five years old when this happpened. I know this was the worst thing you would ever hear , i felt the same on Jan. 3 to come home and not see the LOVE of my live…. I DID NOT HAVE ANYTHIONG TO DO WITH IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! She liked to party HARD.. i was always there to pick her up, but she had fallen hard to drugs like you real dad. I will miss her and you 4EVER like your TMNT LOL , i would never think of hurtting you or her ! I LOVED YOU GUY”S !!!!!!

By: Jeff Frobel Sr on July 6, 2009
at 8:17 pm

i an the nephew of yolanda and cousin of jessica. im seventeen. just an update for everybody just in case you dont know, Paul runge was given the lethal injection in feburary of 2009. He should have had the chair but what’s done is done. He deserves to rot in hell!!!!!!!!!

By: young pain on July 9, 2009
at 11:14 am

young pain,

I do not see that anyone named Paul Runge was executed in February. Where did you get your information? If you go to the Illinois Dept. of Corrections, he is still listed as a current inmate. Did you mean that he was sentenced to death?

Just an FYI: I don’t think any states are using the electric chair anymore. Most, if not all, have gone to letal injection. I don’t like it either, but it is what is happening.

By: mylifeofcrime on July 9, 2009
at 2:29 pm

Jeff, I would be interested in talking to you about Stacey. Can you email me at cornflower1@live.com ? Thank you.

young pain, Paul is still alive. He has not been executed yet.

By: Tina T. on July 14, 2009
at 6:52 am

Well I will Have To Say This Blog Is the Most Honest, Scary, Heavy, And especially the most tearful blogsite I have ever read.
I am Pleased Jeff Frobel wrote. I am not sure If I know him but If We Do Please get in touch with me also .
( Yes I Have To sadly say- living in Streamwood, Illinois in The 80’s there were Drugs and Bars at every corner) it is very sad there were more marajana dealers than Police.
something to ponder.
I Know Stacey Would Of got sick of bars like the rest of us Her Friends !!!!! and would be living a great life now. I am Sure.

By: Susan on July 15, 2009
at 11:07 pm

Carman
This Had To be hard for you to write what you did. And I am so Sorry They Are no longer Here.
but just as the rest of the victims their spirits of love and laughter are always here.
can you tell us any great memories you had with your sisters?
I hope the End of Paul Will give you atleast some relief ! I also hope he still has a soul,
I Am Not Sure.
But I Know the victims sure had wonderful souls
Parts of thier Souls are all on This Page.
God Bless
Susan

By: Susan on July 15, 2009
at 11:22 pm

Danny…I found some old quotes online about a fund for you. Was wondering if you ever got any money from this? I sure hope so.

1995

TRUST FUND ESTABLISHED FOR HOMICIDE VICTIM’S SON

Those wishing to contribute to a trust fund for the son of homicide victim Stacey Frobel can now do so through the Vernon Hills’ Citibank or any of the bank’s other branches.

1995

LONGTIME FRIEND DEFENDS STACEY FROBEL PAL SAYS HER TRUST MAY HAVE KILLED HER

“She’s not just a body part,” said [Susan] , 26, who grew up with Frobel in Hoffman Estates. “She was a good person who went through hell and back in her life.” For months Blanchard has dogged Lake County sheriff’s police about their progress in solving the case. She has distributed fliers to local businesses asking for donations to a trust fund set up for Frobel’s 5-year-old son. Frobel was shy and naive around those she didn’t know and volatile among those she did, Susan said. She had a knack for cheering people up when they most needed it. She had a son, now 5, before she was ever able to grow up herself. Frobel worked briefly at a Mundelein hot dog stand, but she never figured out what she wanted to do with her life.

1995

A fund has been established to help Frobel’s son, Daniel, who is now an orphan…

Frobel fund: A trust fund for 5-year-old Daniel McDonald, the son of murder victim Stacey Frobel, has been established at the Citibank branch in Vernon …

By: Tina on July 19, 2009
at 8:06 am

Thanks Christy for writting this. living in wis. I do not get this Paper. thanks Again
Published: 5/21/2009 11:02 AM | Updated: 5/21/2009 6:31 PM

A divided Illinois Supreme Court upheld a condemned serial killer’s conviction, rejecting his argument that he was denied a fair trial for the sex slayings of a Chicago mother and her daughter.

In a Thursday opinion, four of the high court’s seven justices affirmed Paul F. Runge should die by lethal injection for the 1997 murders of Yolanda Gutierrez and her daughter, Jessica Muniz, 10, found side by side in their studio apartment.

A Cook County jury rejected Runge’s insanity defense in an emotional 2006 trial filled with evidence of sexual violence in seven murders.

In a sharply worded dissent, Justice Anne M. Burke argued Runge deserved a new trial because Cook Judge Joseph Kazmierski did not do enough to ensure an impartial jury.

For example, evidence surfaced that jurors privately discussed the case before deliberations, in violation of the judge’s order. The behavior of one particular juror, who made inappropriate comments, also was debated.

“I recognize that the crimes at issue here … were horrific,” Burke wrote. “But it is precisely these types of cases that test our commitment to the principle of law.

“We must not allow ourselves to be swayed by emotion. Given Illinois’ history with capital cases, the majority’s opinion sends the wrong message about how these cases will be treated in Illinois.”

Prosecutors first pursued the Gutierrez/Muniz murders at trial because DNA evidence made it their strongest case. Runge admitted in videotaped confessions to at least five others.

The 39-year-old man may face a second trial for the Jan. 3, 1995, rape and murder of Stacey Frobel, 24, of Carol Stream, whose severed remains were found scattered across rural Lake County and Wisconsin. Prosecutors want to clinch a second death sentence should the first ever be overturned.

In its majority opinion, written by Justice Lloyd A. Karmeier, four justices rejected Runge’s various arguments that his jury was tainted or that the judge erred in barring the defense from deposing certain prosecution experts and making a defense report inadmissible.

Runge is one of 15 condemned men on Illinois’ death row. The unofficial moratorium has not been lifted, but capital punishment remains state law.

Runge was one of the last people to see Frobel alive when she visited his girlfriend’s Streamwood townhouse, just eight months after his release from prison for the 1987 rape of a 14-year-old girl in Oak Forest.

Police found traces of Frobel’s blood in the home, but they lacked enough evidence to make an arrest. The FBI kept Runge under surveillance, but he is accused of committing six other murders during that time through March 1997.

Authorities granted immunity to his then-wife, Charlene, who played a role in the first three slayings, which in addition to Frobel included the murders six months later of two Hanover Park sisters who had recently fled war-torn Bosnia, only to be killed in Runge’s Glendale Heights home.

Their bodies still have not been found.

In 2000, forensic experts gleaned DNA from Jessica Muniz’s body that they said connected Runge to the crime. After being confronted with the evidence, Runge confessed on videotape to at least seven murders, and was charged in June 2001.

Paul Runge has never granted a face-to-face media interview. He did, though, submit written answers in 2006 to the Daily Herald through his father.

“I don’t let myself accept I’m guilty of these crimes,” Runge wrote. “I feel bad about the pain I’ve caused but the self-defense part of my brain doesn’t let me identify the crimes with me. Without truly accepting my actions, there will never be an equal amount of guilt and remorse. To fully accept and realize my actions would kill me.”

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Published: 5/21/2009 11:02 AM | Updated: 5/21/2009 6:31 PM

By: Susan on July 19, 2009
at 11:38 am

Yes Danny I Hope You Recieved Monies from your trust fund your Grandmother established.
I pasted out those fliers that your Grandma had brought me,
And left it at that.
never thought to ask your Grandma what happened with monies you had received that was none of my buisness and believe still isnt.
But I do pray you have had help with college ext.. you deserve it. I did live in a Beautiful House in Bartlett when this happened But it was my Boyfriends- And if I could of had gotten a loan for you I would of !
If I could of afforded to give you Everything I would of.
The nice car I drove was also my X-boyfriends All the beautiful things I had did not belong to me. !!!!!

But I do wonder what the meaning of all this is ???????
I am confused of Why Tina brought this up, Extremely Confused..
I sure hope she is NOT accusing me of anything !!!
For Heavens sake !! I will be thoroughly Disgusted!!!!!!!
Notice Tina All funds sent to Bank.
I never went back to those stores Ever !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I sat home and Cried and My X at that time can verify That !!!GRRRR
What kind of Crazyness ! and I say that Lightly Is Tina Starting here!
Its nice that you put up that article, Except It should be for the purpose that this Is where Funds for Stacey can still be sent !!!!!! Please Tina Let Us Know ! Is This where funds can be sent ??????????
And If You Are Accusing me of any malicious acts- YOU OWE ME A BIG FAT APOLOGY !! You Have Alot of frigin nerve.
*******************************************
Stacey was Like My sister and she will always be !

By: Susan on July 20, 2009
at 6:35 am

Another memory that popped in my head is when Stac was on the softball team- and all of us would cheer her on Boy could she hit that Softball… her Mom did get her involved with extracurricular activities…
She was on a softball team called unbelievable but it fit her…
” THE BABES ”
I hope Her Mom can remember those awesome times watching her Kick A** on the field I sure do !
It Was Pleasant memories. For sure.

By: Susan on July 20, 2009
at 5:10 pm

I don’t know what your talking about. Are you the person in the article? Stacey had lots of friends. You’re not the only one. Danny mentioned up top that money was collected. I’m curious if he ever got it. I simply quoted things I found online from news articles, that said there had been a fund set up.

Here is the very wise quote from Danny. HIS words, not mine.

this is more of a site for the family and friends not the ones who want fame…. like for another instance… someone raising a charity fun for Stacey and Keeping all of the money… My grandma and I know the truth and will respect the people who actually have a true heart

This is not all about you. I don’t owe anyone an apology.

I apologize to the victims friends and families who have to come here and read this crap yet again.

By: Tina on July 21, 2009
at 6:34 am

also, the only reason I posted this on here, is because I haven’t been able to get in touch with Danny. I tried to write him to let him know that Jeff posted here. I thought he’d like to respond.

By: Tina on July 21, 2009
at 7:44 am

why do you keep repeating stuff. like this. yes you put that article up against me. sorry Tina I wasnt born Yesterday and if you notice I am not about Fame !!!!
I write stories of my special memories of Stac, and I am not ashamed of doing what any friend would do. by writting the things I remember, so People can see the Best part Of Stac.
Yes You Do owe me a apology it was directed at me why would you put that up? with my NAME , hmmm
everyone I know reads this and they believe the same.
The truth is… its not me who ever kept any such funds, !!!!!
thats sad.
now leave me alone forever !
I dont need this to cloud my mind with my special love I HAVE.

By: Susan on July 21, 2009
at 5:34 pm

JAZZERSIZE CLASSES… were so much fun with Stacey we laughed so hard when we had to walk on our butts. LOL

By: Susan on July 23, 2009
at 4:19 pm

BTW-Tina I was her closest friend growing up that is why you are seeing my posts !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By: Susan on July 23, 2009
at 4:30 pm

I have to say that I am upset. From my understanding of this, it’s a blog! A place to share about the victims and not throw out accusations for others whom feel pain from Staceys death. Share your memories of your loved ones for they are special to all. I too knew Stacey as a young lady and I enjoyed her company, she was truly a wonderful person. Stacey should be remembered and I encourage anyone with good things to say, please do. Those who wish to be rude and make accusations, please don’t. Love Stacey and always keep her in your hearts. Remember her smiling, such a sweet thought…..Please not let her see this from above and hurt her wonderful memories and thoughts of you.

By: Early '80s friend on July 23, 2009
at 7:00 pm

Heres a fun memory of Stac,
we were in Girl scouts together and we wanted to make those boring outfits more hip…tried to get away with multi colored leg warmers and rolling up the sleeves.
but were not aloud.
but it was fun , we were able to go to Bozo Circus and ditch school to see ourselves on TV.
Thats The Picture I can remember of Stacey being on TV in her
Girl scout uniform she was so happy smiling ear to ear !!!

By: Susan on July 28, 2009
at 1:16 am

I knew Stacey McDonald in S. Florida. It saddens me so much to know that she is gone forever.

By: Barry on August 18, 2009
at 2:02 pm

Enough!
I knew Stacey and Suzie- Stac could be here and being a mom like Suzie whos oldest son is going to the Police Accademy this month……..
Stacey should be here.
Paul is Gone take him away fast !
Hes ruined so frigin much of peoples lives.

By: erica on September 5, 2009
at 11:25 pm

I knew Stacey too. This bickering is ridiculous.

By: Jill on September 22, 2009
at 12:14 pm

hey danny && elizabeth
i’am the sister or jessica muniz
i was never blessed to meet my sister shes my sister threw my father tony muniz i now i’m 17 yrs. old and even doe i never knew my sister i hold her very close to my heart i know she is always with me and protects me in journey in life i would really like to know more information on what really happened, elizabeth my myspace email is melissamrm2004@myspace.com also for you danny my aunt mari muniz would like to speak to you since she no longer has a comp. you can reach her at 321-662-0832 or if not at my myspace

By: melissa muniz on September 28, 2009
at 7:58 pm

&& for carmen please contact me too if you can il be waiting my family has no information whats so ever and im trying to contact you i really want to know a part of my sister my grandmother says im alot like her http://www.myspace.com/melissmrm
my link to myspace

By: melissa muniz on September 28, 2009
at 8:49 pm

wrong link sorry

http://www.myspace.com/melissamrm

By: melissa muniz on September 28, 2009
at 9:11 pm

Susan are you forgetting about the money you got from the Bar on Barrington Rd. But don’t think about it again I took care of Danny! thank you all for thinking of Stacey. I remember a lot of funny things of her. her birthday partyies to many to write about I loved her lets keep it nice Danny needs happy stories not fighting. thanks everyone! Stacey’s Mom

By: Susan Stacey Mom on September 29, 2009
at 11:41 pm

How sad someone would do that.

Does anyone know what is going on with Paul Runge and his next court appearance?

By: Thomas L. on October 6, 2009
at 4:32 am

I SWEAR I Never did such a thing. I will even take a lie detector. I cant believe this is even being said . I sure would like to know because it hurts. real bad. who said these things ? – I never took nothing…. I already had everything and two jobs. please let me prove it once and for all. with a polygraph Sue. you know I loved Stacey.

By: susan on October 10, 2009
at 9:18 pm

The next court date is Dec. 15, But it doesn’t mean anything . Runge can’t hurt anyone else! Thanks everyone Stacey well be loved forever by so many

By: Susan Stacey Mom on October 10, 2009
at 10:58 pm

Jeff how do I get ahold of you?

By: Danny on October 14, 2009
at 7:57 pm

I knew this a-hole when I was 12yrs old til just after HS, he was always a strange guy. I actually lifted weights with him until he started acting weird. One day he showed a group of us some strange porn..needless to say we never hung out with him again, he should have been still in prison at the time of these murders, llousy state lettting him out, he should have been studied and locked up forever as a preditor. Sorry for your loss.

By: Stewwie on November 11, 2009
at 3:38 pm

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